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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Bush is only responsible for what Bush did. That's called accountability and being responsible. Obama is only responsible for what Obama did. Again, accountability and responsibility.

    As for crimes, if you have actual evidence of a crime, procede with my belssings. But the point was and is that I don't understand how people who keep using the sound bite of personal responsibility keep blaming everyone else. It's always someone elses fault. The media picks on you. Democrats abuse you. Reality is unfair. Poor, poor republicans. I don't buy it. Take some personal responsibility for your own actions. No excuses.
    That won't happen. Republicans and Democrats alike... all we want to do is blame the other guy... nothing is EVER EVER EVER our fault or our responsibility. This country will continue on this same path and nothing will ever really get done because no one wants to step up and take responsibility for anything, when its so much easier to just say the other guy did it, soooo..what do you want from me?

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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    That won't happen. Republicans and Democrats alike... all we want to do is blame the other guy... nothing is EVER EVER EVER our fault or our responsibility. This country will continue on this same path and nothing will ever really get done because no one wants to step up and take responsibility for anything, when its so much easier to just say the other guy did it, soooo..what do you want from me?
    True. In our society, that helps a lot if I can place the blame elsewhere.

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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I exercised it tuesday.


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    So did I. But, that too isn't what we're talking about now is it?

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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Disproved? No, I don't think so.
    Well, to rational people. You have in the past argued it is completely legal for cops to threaten suspects in an interrogation with rape and murder of their families. Not exactly a sign of rational thinking.

    The CRA may not in itself be the cause soley of the greed that over took the housing
    Housing in the US is less then 1% of the economy. Tell me how less then 1% of the economy caused this mess.

    and investment markets, and you have a point that republicans jumped on board with many demo's whispering in their ears that they needed to in order to be re elected as a party
    Do you ever stop lying? The GOP repealed the GSA. Sure Clinton signed it, but it was their idea.

    but as far as wanting regulation of Fannie, and Freddie goes demo's did indeed stand in the way of regulation, it is documented, and on tape. I have posted it several times.
    Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess?

    Did demo's plant the corrupt seed through ACORN that forced banks to take on mortgages that couldn't support themselves, and had no chance of being repaid? Hell yes they did, and they used thug, extortion tactics to do it too.
    Again, Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess?

    Banks and investment houses are to blame when it comes to the greed involved in hedging their bets on these mortgages, but that also was a green light given them by demo's when banks started to complain that they would loose money on these bad home loans, and when repubs tried to reign in through regulation Fannie, and Freddie, players like Dodd, and Frank stood in their way because the payoff was in. Countrywide approving a sweetheart deal for Dodd on a shack in Ireland....Come on man.
    Again, Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess? Or you can just keep failing.

    You have utterly failed to address anything you quoted.
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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    How do you let yourself get off making statements like these? Srsly.
    The same way he refuses to blame Republicans. He's trying to argue that the repeal of the GSA was a Democrat idea. Sign of an extreme hyperpartisan is when they squarely refuse to blame their party for anything
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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Those lovable Republicans, always projecting. Still no word on when we can expect George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to be brought to justice.

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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, to rational people. You have in the past argued it is completely legal for cops to threaten suspects in an interrogation with rape and murder of their families. Not exactly a sign of rational thinking.



    Housing in the US is less then 1% of the economy. Tell me how less then 1% of the economy caused this mess.



    Do you ever stop lying? The GOP repealed the GSA. Sure Clinton signed it, but it was their idea.



    Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess?



    Again, Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess?



    Again, Want to show how 1% of the economy caused this mess? Or you can just keep failing.

    You have utterly failed to address anything you quoted.
    The real story:

    Housing contributes to GDP in two basic ways: through private residential investment and consumption spending on housing services. Historically, residential investment has averaged roughly 5 percent of GDP while housing services have averaged between 12 and 13 percent, for a combined 17 to 18 percent of GDP. These shares tend to vary over the business cycle.
    Now, what percentage of forum users post nonsense that is easily refuted with a quick search, and then don't back it up?

    I'll let you reasearch that one.
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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Holy ****, the OP is hilarious and is a perfect example of politicians being entirely dishonest without actually lying. From the OP:

    No one is accusing the Obama administration of destroying documents, but Republicans are expected to try to ensure that all records on a range of issues are kept intact.


    SO, while no one is doing anything wrong, some republicans let the press know they are going to urge Obama officials not to do what they are not doing anyway, and have no evidence they would do, all to get a story with the misleading headline. Well done republicans in once again lowering politics a little more into the realm of cheap theatrics.
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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy ****, the OP is hilarious and is a perfect example of politicians being entirely dishonest without actually lying. From the OP:



    SO, while no one is doing anything wrong, some republicans let the press know they are going to urge Obama officials not to do what they are not doing anyway, and have no evidence they would do, all to get a story with the misleading headline. Well done republicans in once again lowering politics a little more into the realm of cheap theatrics.
    It's a little bit like that birth certificate that the birthers keep yammering on about, isn't it?
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    Re: GOP likely to urge Obama officials not to shred documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post

    Now, what percentage of forum users post nonsense that is easily refuted with a quick search, and then don't back it up?

    I'll let you reasearch that one.
    That doesn't actually tell us anything. The problem within the housing was the subprime loans. Which make up a significently smaller portion of total housing. Furthermore, your cited numbers is total housing impact, from refinancing to remodeling. I'm not in any way talking about that.

    Residential investment includes construction of new single family and multifamily structures, residential remodeling, production of manufactured homes, and brokers’ fees. Consumption spending on housing services includes gross rents (which include utilities) paid by renters, and owners' imputed rent (an estimate of how much it would cost to rent owner-occupied units), and utility payments. Including owners' imputed rent in GDP has been standard practice in national income accounting for a long time. Were owners' imputed rent not included, an increase in the homeownership rate would cause GDP to decline.
    I'll let you research that one.
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