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Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

Why are stoners losers Erod?
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here by saying I think drug dealers have bigger concerns than voting. Especially considering felons cannot vote in California.

I thought I'd have to eat my shoes the day I found myself on the same side as Navy Pride...but here we are. I voted against the proposal because I'm not convinced that marijuana is safe enough to allow it's free consumption. On top of that, even if Prop 19 passes, it's still federally illegal and the law falls the second it get's challenged by the federal government as federal law trumps state law.
yeah, because the government knows all who are drug dealers....
 
I'm glad prop 19 failed. Weed should be kept illegal and enforcement of its illegal status should not be taken so laxly.

;) So, what's next: To make alcohol consumption ILLEGAL again???
 
Because Erod doesn't know how to inhale and is Jealous that all the other kids had more fun.

While more than likely true, the sad thing is most Americans probably hold the same views as Erod and I am sick and tired of it. I'm sick of tired of being looked upon negatively by people who drink regularly. This prohibition is absolute nonsense and is driving people to Alcohol and now even legal bud which is more dangerous than weed! Two MMJ initiatives also failed last night (In SD and AZ). Does anybody ever stop to think why Alcohol and Pharmacutetical companies are pumping money into the legalization resistance??
 
The stoners lose again, even in California..........Eat your heart out Disney Dude:)


Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated | abc7.com


LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- One of the most controversial measures on Tuesday's ballot is Proposition 19, the initiative to legalize, regulate and tax marijuana in California. It was sure to be challenged, even if voters approved it. Some lawmakers had already been preparing to tax cannabis sales. The measure was defeated Tuesday night.

The Associated Press called the measure defeated at 9:45 p.m. Tuesday.

What happen now? Are people going to stop smoking pot? NO! I'm pretty sure they will not.
What’s it that you’re so glad about?
Do you really need a law to tell YOU what to smoke or not to?
I’m not a “Stoner” and I was up for prop 19, does that exclude me from being a looser?
Would you like to make alcohol consumption Illegal as well because you’re not able to decide if you can handle a glass of wine?

The only winners here are the DRUG DEALERS, don't lie to yourself.
 
While more than likely true, the sad thing is most Americans probably hold the same views as Erod and I am sick and tired of it. I'm sick of tired of being looked upon negatively by people who drink regularly. This prohibition is absolute nonsense and is driving people to Alcohol and now even legal bud which is more dangerous than weed! Two MMJ initiatives also failed last night (In SD and AZ). Does anybody ever stop to think why Alcohol and Pharmacutetical companies are pumping money into the legalization resistance??
You and me both. I use prostitutes(relax they are the expensive ones) I'm sick and tired of being looked upon negatively by people who talk about loving this country and everyone inside but then use racial slurs to describe blacks/minorities.
 
You and me both. I use prostitutes(relax they are the expensive ones) I'm sick and tired of being looked upon negatively by people who talk about loving this country and everyone inside but then use racial slurs to describe blacks/minorities.

prostitution is another thing, If people want to sell their bodies to people willing to pay for sex then so be it. If it were legal we could place some regulations and health standards on it making it safer.
 
prostitution is another thing, If people want to sell their bodies to people willing to pay for sex then so be it. If it were legal we could place some regulations and health standards on it making it safer.

It pretty much is safe so long as you know what you are doing. Like always use a latex condom that is lubricated on both sides. Make sure its a brand new one each and every time you have sex and cum. You know its pretty safe if people used condoms.
 
that's just digsbe for you man, you'll see what I mean if you continue to use this board.

In 1919, amendment 18 and the Volstead Law declared alcohol Illegal on Federal bases.
The violation to that law flooded very fast the legal system.
In 1924, Federal prisons had duplicated their population.
An study on parliamentary issues demonstrated that public lawyers waisted about 44% of their time in problems related wit the prohibition..
Corruption became a huge part of the legal system.
Lincoln C. Andrews (prohibition boss) testified in 1926 that 875 bureaucrats were fired because of corruption, bribery and inappropriate behavior.
Gangs controlled the Illegal sells of alcohol. There were FIVE THOUSAND clandestine pubs only in Chicago.
Violent crimes were common on Chicago streets.
When the prohibition ended gangs stopped operating, and even in spite of the crisis the crime’s rates were down.

We are supposed to LEARN from our mistakes, there’s evidence that prohibition is wrong.

Didn’t we learn anything?
 
It pretty much is safe so long as you know what you are doing. Like always use a latex condom that is lubricated on both sides. Make sure its a brand new one each and every time you have sex and cum. You know its pretty safe if people used condoms.

That’s another issue. Prostitution exists we all know that. Making it Illegal only makes it more expensive and dangerous, and of course a hypocritical society feels good denying the truth.
 
Like always use a latex condom that is lubricated on both sides. Make sure its a brand new one each and every time ...
Ohhh. A New one each time... I had been just turning them inside out.
 
Ohhh. A New one each time... I had been just turning them inside out.
well at least A conservative is using one. I was used to believing conservatives didn't use condoms because they were the devil's object.
 
I cannot believe anyone who tokes wants the gov't imposing taxes on weed. Good Heavens, they've made cigarettes cost more than gold with all the taxes. The go'vt would make sure all the good stuff gets taken out of pot. While this seems like a defeat, consider it a victory for what it didn;t cost you.

Unless the Californian government plans on taxing the hell of out hydroponic supplies and regular gardening supplies pot smokers will not really be affected by taxes that much.Unlike the cigarette smokers who have to pay ridiculous taxes for their habit,a pot smoker can grow his own pot.
 
There really is no defending the law. Federal law trumps state law and any judge who could put on his robes without help would strike Prop 19 down in a second.

Federal law does not always win over state law.
Federal law has to meet a set of guidelines before it can be enacted over all the states.

The feds would have a hard time arguing that they have the right to control a substance that is only sold in California, it doesn't meet the qualifications of interstate commerce.
 
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What a difference a decade makes in opinion. It is just a matter of time, and this vote was apparently a few years too early, and had a few too many opponents with millions of dollars worth of potential revenue loss at stake had it went through.

We have enemies engaged in both sides of this "drug war" united today celebrating this victory, the criminals and the law (as a government institution, not necessarily law as a conglomerate of all individuals). Their money still flows, their lucrative war still rages. The ones who lose are the millions of people caught in the crossfire.
 
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now if only politicans would support it as much as the public does...How many people in congress are supportive on Marijuana legalization?? I assume it's less than 5 total.
 
;)darn potheads couldn't pull themselves away from their captain crunch long enough to go vote!
 
;)darn potheads couldn't pull themselves away from their captain crunch long enough to go vote!

Captain Crunch sucks! It cuts the roof of your mouth.
 
I would characterize Prop. 19 as a "victorious defeat." A whopping 46.2% of the electorate in California voted to legalize marijuana - a truly gargantuan base upon which to build a later victory. Nobody who voted for legalization this time around is going to vote against it next time, so it only takes a 3.8% shift to happen. The issue has just become a lot more mainstream - and will only continue to do so over time.

Thats a positive way to look at it.

Nice Optimism Troubadour. I wish others could provide positive comments instead of sarcastic and even inflamatory ones..
 
Great to see another triumph for ignorance and witholding personal freedoms!
 
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