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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure it did. Almost every Republican was defeated in California. The Democrats are finally learning to use wedge issues to bring people to the polls the way that Republicans have for years. 2012 is already being lined up with a lot of more liberal issues to get Democrats to the polls.
    Are you cool with manipulating the voter turn out that way? Don't get me wrong, the day CA legalizes pot across the board will be a day I will celebrate. But don't you think that maintaining the credibility and fairness of our elections is a bit more important? Allowing one side to control the ballot, in order to draw more voters to their agendas, well, you might as well not have a vote at all.

    True, the GOP has been manipulating the vote with wedge issues on the ballots for several years now. It really doesn't surprise me that they would. I have dogged them on it before. I would be a hypocrite not to dog out the leftwing for doing it too. Two wrongs don't make a right. This isn't the math that makes two negatives a positive.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Are you cool with manipulating the voter turn out that way? Don't get me wrong, the day CA legalizes pot across the board will be a day I will celebrate. But don't you think that maintaining the credibility and fairness of our elections is a bit more important? Allowing one side to control the ballot, in order to draw more voters to their agendas, well, you might as well not have a vote at all.

    True, the GOP has been manipulating the vote with wedge issues on the ballots for several years now. It really doesn't surprise me that they would. I have dogged them on it before. I would be a hypocrite not to dog out the leftwing for doing it too. Two wrongs don't make a right. This isn't the math that makes two negatives a positive.
    Right and wrong aside, it comes down to a factual basis. I think we should look at a law objectively, with a preponderance of evidence burden. If we can show evidence equal to or outweighing any negative evidence we should vote the law into effect. The means by which we vote it into effect can make up for the difference between the positive evidence and the negative evidence; ie, the better the law, the more underhanded tactics you can use to get it passed, IMO.

    Of course, this all is based upon the ability to quantify the effects of a given law.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't have a problem with pot as a medication for camcer........My aproblem is the abuse of medical pot that goes on in California........
    There may be a few cases of abuse, but not nearly enough to ban the only way thousands of people in unrelenting pain can find relief. Thank your lucky stars it isn't happening to you.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It depends who is doing the studies..........Studies also say that pot eats brain cells......Someone made a joke about the reason prop 19 did not pass is because the pot users were to stoned to get out and vote.....Lot of truth there...........
    So why then should alcohol be legal?
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Ummmm..... "pissing dirty" as you call it wouldn't even have to change if pot were legalized.
    Businesses can still decide they don't want people who partake in the use of marijuana.
    I doubt it. Every business has a right to tell you not to drink at work obviously, but at work? No they can't do that it's your time and it's legal to drink. It would probably revert to a mouth swab which typically only works if you had smoked the same day. btw why do cops go to poison control if "exposed" to marijuana that cracks me up. Is that a protocol thing or what?
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    There will come a day when weed is legal and those fighting? Keep trying to bust down those doors
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    There will come a day when weed is legal and those fighting? Keep trying to bust down those doors
    Yeah abd Heroin, coke and every hard drug and then we can get stoned out of our ****ing minds get out on the high way and play bumper cars........one big 300,000,000 million stoner party..........
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah abd Heroin, coke and every hard drug and then we can get stoned out of our ****ing minds get out on the high way and play bumper cars........one big 300,000,000 million stoner party..........
    Heroin, coke and other hard drugs have nothing to do with the topic at hand. This is about marijuana.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Are you cool with manipulating the voter turn out that way? Don't get me wrong, the day CA legalizes pot across the board will be a day I will celebrate. But don't you think that maintaining the credibility and fairness of our elections is a bit more important? Allowing one side to control the ballot, in order to draw more voters to their agendas, well, you might as well not have a vote at all.

    True, the GOP has been manipulating the vote with wedge issues on the ballots for several years now. It really doesn't surprise me that they would. I have dogged them on it before. I would be a hypocrite not to dog out the leftwing for doing it too. Two wrongs don't make a right. This isn't the math that makes two negatives a positive.
    Just because doing the right thing is politically expedient doesn’t mean it’s any less right to do it. But yeah, a system that only does the right thing when it's politically expedient is full of ****.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah abd Heroin, coke and every hard drug and then we can get stoned out of our ****ing minds get out on the high way and play bumper cars........one big 300,000,000 million stoner party..........
    Kind of like the 300,000,000 people we have driving drunk.
    Oh. Wait. Very few people drive drunk.
    Maybe the use of these other chemicals would mimic the patterns of use of legal chemicals.11
    I may be wrong.

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