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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    My uncle was a pothead. He has hardly any memory. I suspect a correlation.

    Well people usually smoke it. I'm unsure about the eating part b/c of it entering the systemic system and then passing the blood-brain barrier and thus affecting the hypothalamus...

    I certainly don't think cannabis improves intellect. There is nothing material that one can consume that can increas IQ. Memory, focus, concentration, mental stimulation/bloodflow... yes. But raw intellect? No. If so there would be far more interest in researching cannabis in the development of an actual IQ increaser. If cannabis was truly so effective at that, people would be flying to research, produce, buy, and use to improve their studies.
    The marijuana laws are an open and shut case of the government taking away liberty and freedom from both marijuana growers and consumers, because they believe they know what's best for people, aka. This is a classic example of big government, communist style, nanny state.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    THC does not destroy brain cells. However it will coat them essentially with a "tar" that makes it harder for the synapses in the brain to fire off information back and forth, the more you smoke and the older you are the more likely this "tar" will not cleanse off as your body is more concerned after a certain age about keeping other parts of you going, let alone extra things it wasn't meant to do in the first place, however in order for it to have any kind of effect on you to make you slow or have memory loss like the fellow on the last page claimed about his uncle, there would likely have to be something else involved or an incredible amount smoked. If you eat to many cookies you could die from being a fatass, just like anything good in life just don't do it in excess.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    THC does not destroy brain cells. However it will coat them essentially with a "tar" that makes it harder for the synapses in the brain to fire off information back and forth, the more you smoke and the older you are the more likely this "tar" will not cleanse off as your body is more concerned after a certain age about keeping other parts of you going, let alone extra things it wasn't meant to do in the first place, however in order for it to have any kind of effect on you to make you slow or have memory loss like the fellow on the last page claimed about his uncle, there would likely have to be something else involved or an incredible amount smoked. If you eat to many cookies you could die from being a fatass, just like anything good in life just don't do it in excess.
    Where did you find this information? Can the rest of us see it?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Where did you find this information? Can the rest of us see it?
    Discovery Health "Marijuana and the Brain"
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It doesn't seem to say the same things you said it says.
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    coating brain cells with tar
    the older you are the more likely this "tar" will not cleanse off
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    It doesn't seem to say the same things you said it says.
    specifically:
    coating brain cells with tar
    the older you are the more likely this "tar" will not cleanse off
    Just to give you a starting point:

    The terminal half-life of THC is from about 20 hours to 10 days, depending on the amount and potency of the marijuana used. This means that if you take one milligram of THC that has a half-life of 20 hours, you will still have 0.031 mg of THC in your body more than four days later. The longer the half-life, the longer the THC lingers in your body.
    This site explains it slightly differently than I originally read. I think the original article I read was on WebMD or Wikipedia site or something. This actually makes it seem much less harmful than even I thought.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    My problem is the people in charge of elections attempting to influence or bias an election by putting wedge issue propositions on the same ballots with political candidates. It's an attempt to draw out more voters to one side or another.

    Who cares if that piece of paper failed? People smoke dope on the sidewalk in California. Marijuana has long been accepted on the left coast. It was just a way to draw the stoner's to the polls to vote against the conservatives. Didn't work! Neener! Neener!

    The right does it too. Want to pull more rightwingers off the couch? Put a referendum on the ballot that allows queers to get married.

    To me, that's voter manipulation and it should be outlawed.
    Sure it did. Almost every Republican was defeated in California. The Democrats are finally learning to use wedge issues to bring people to the polls the way that Republicans have for years. 2012 is already being lined up with a lot of more liberal issues to get Democrats to the polls.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure it did. Almost every Republican was defeated in California. The Democrats are finally learning to use wedge issues to bring people to the polls the way that Republicans have for years. 2012 is already being lined up with a lot of more liberal issues to get Democrats to the polls.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think because pot is associated with hippies, hippies tend to be liberal, also associated with minorities also tend to be a bit more liberal, etc. I don't know one sound minded person in Kentucky, Republican or Democrat that thinks it's a bad thing to let people get a little high and not have to worry about pissing dirty. Want to know why people do hardcore drugs? Because pot, something that will just make you giggle a lot and eat a bunch of Doritos stays in your system for about 2 weeks to a month. Crack? about 2-3 days.

    You make pot legal, you get rid of a lot of problems and the domino effect is savings to the tax payer.
    Ummmm..... "pissing dirty" as you call it wouldn't even have to change if pot were legalized.
    Businesses can still decide they don't want people who partake in the use of marijuana.
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    Re: Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana defeated....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Ummmm..... "pissing dirty" as you call it wouldn't even have to change if pot were legalized.
    Businesses can still decide they don't want people who partake in the use of marijuana.
    Liquor is legal and most places won't let you be under it's influence while on the clock. Hell most jobs I've had won't let you be under the influence of perfectly legal over-the-counter meds.

    I see no reason why pot would be any different.

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