2010 Midterm Results Discussion

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
you're not serious.

LOL!

look who's talking

fact---doctors coast to coast are refusing to take on new medicare patients

fact---democrat gubs bill richardson, christine gregoire, phil bredesen, jim ritter and brian schweitzer make their case unmistakably---their states simply cannot absorb the burden of 12 million new medicaid enrollees with no federal funding

fact---the prez promises to cut the deficit in half in 4 years, in year 3 his own leadership fails to produce a budget

why, it's all in the LINKS

someone's not serious---LOL!

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

The Prof said:
and it's as insignificant as any other kneejerk reaction

how's the prez gonna cut the deficit in half when he can't even PROPOSE A BUDGET

It may be in the long run, but if your complaint is he hasn't done in tow years what he said he would do in four, and you try to hinder him in doing it, not sure you have a complaint, . . . yet.

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Paschendale said:
But the market DOESN'T do these things. It allowed robber barons to scoop up all the wealth and create recessions. It allowed trusts to artificially inflate prices and drain people of their money. It allowed banks (in part) to create the Great Depression. It allowed Goldman Sachs and its allies to create the current recession. Businessmen have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted to work in our interest, and the Republican party has proven over and over that it works in their interest.

So why vote for people who clearly aren't trying to help you?

Also, don't get all ad homenim with me. It just proves that you have nothing substantial to back up your position. Your counter argument is that I cannot have my own thoughts based on where I live (btw, been in DC for all of 3 months), and that a person in Boise is better left to the will of GM than of elected officials. Back up this claim. Why do you believe that Bank of America will go against its financial self interest and keep that Boise family in their home? The federal government is the only body with enough power to stop Bank of America from doing this.

I have plenty to back up my statements including the Constitution of the United States and actual economic results posted at the Bureau of Economic Analysis and Bureau of Labor Statistics. Suggest you read the Constitution and then a good history and civics book. This country wasn't built on liberal principles where it is someone else's responsibility to bail you out for very poor choices an individual makes. the only ones hurt by private business are the ones that invest in private businesses that participate in unscrupulous activities, no such luck when you deal with the Federal Govt. Instead of worrying about what private business does you ought to be worrying more about how your tax dollars are being spent. Think that our Founders ever envisioned a 3.8 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and 14 trillion dollar debt?

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
It may be in the long run

it may what?

be as insignificant as any other kneejerk reaction?

LOL!

if your complaint is he hasn't done in tow [sic] years what he said he would do in four

it's not my complaint, silly

it's C-N-N's

LOL!

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
Liberal mind? Like I said, you're not serious. :coffeepap

Yep, totally serious, why send more money to the Federal Govt. and taking it out of take home pay when the people need the money more than the govt. You seem to care how much money the govt. gets, then send them more of your own money over and above withholding. Let me know when you do that. then when you get a tax refund send it back.

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

a couple questions for the serious, if there are any

how do you expand medicare and medicaid by millions while simultaneously cutting their funding by half a tril?

how do you expect governors bredesen and richardson to pay for all these new members with no federal backing?

why are so many doctors refusing to take on new medicare patients?

think, link and click SUBMIT

LOL!

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
It may be in the long run, but if your complaint is he hasn't done in tow years what he said he would do in four, and you try to hinder him in doing it, not sure you have a complaint, . . . yet.

By the way I was wrong in giving you the election results, the GOP captured 682 state legislative seats on Tuesday along with 65 House seats, truly historic by every standard.

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

The Prof said:
it may what?

be as insignificant as any other kneejerk reaction?

LOL!

it's not my complaint, silly

it's C-N-N's

LOL!

It may be insignificant in the long run, yes.

Do you ever have an independent thought? Just asking . . . . :coffeepap

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Conservative said:
By the way I was wrong in giving you the election results, the GOP captured 682 state legislative seats on Tuesday along with 65 House seats, truly historic by every standard.

OK. So? Medicare, Medicaid and Ss won't be done away with. Will you be angry at the GOP's socalistic tendencies? :coffeepap

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

The Prof said:
a couple questions for the serious, if there are any

how do you expand medicare and medicaid by millions while simultaneously cutting their funding by half a tril?

how do you expect governors bredesen and richardson to pay for all these new members with no federal backing?

why are so many doctors refusing to take on new medicare patients?

think, link and click SUBMIT

LOL!

Seriously, you can cut other places, the military being a likely place. If you are really serious, you might look at how he proposed doing it and disect that. It would be a start.

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
OK. So? Medicare, Medicaid and Ss won't be done away with. Will you be angry at the GOP's socalistic tendencies? :coffeepap

Medicare, SS, and Medicaid are funded by withholding taxes and should be pulled off budget to give the public the true picture of their financial status. I have made that recommendations to the Republicans. I prefer allowing people to invest some of their SS money into whatever investment opportunity they want. Over 35 years in business I put a lot of money into the SS account. Give me just that money back and I will be extremely happy.

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
It may be insignificant in the long run, yes.

the failure of leadership to PROPOSE A BUDGET is insignificant?

LOL!

Do you ever have an independent thought?

my thoughts are no more important than those of any other mindless submitter

that's why i stick to FACTS, ie, LINKS

i don't want to end up looking like you

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

meanwhile, the question remains

how do you expand the m's by millions while cutting their already overstrained, over-relied-upon fundings by HALF A TRIL?

we've already scrutinized the reactions of the democrat gubs

but, really, we all would prefer to hear from submitters more SERIOUS

LOL!

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

The Prof said:
the failure of leadership to PROPOSE A BUDGET is insignificant?

LOL!

my thoughts are no more important than those of any other mindless submitter

that's why i stick to FACTS, ie, LINKS

i don't want to end up looking like you

Don't be dishonest. The fact that it has only been two years may be insignificant.

And yes, your thoughts should be what you present. Links are mindless without your thoughts. Most of us read for ourselves.

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Conservative said:
Medicare, SS, and Medicaid are funded by withholding taxes and should be pulled off budget to give the public the true picture of their financial status. I have made that recommendations to the Republicans. I prefer allowing people to invest some of their SS money into whatever investment opportunity they want. Over 35 years in business I put a lot of money into the SS account. Give me just that money back and I will be extremely happy.

Republicans won't do that. Will you criticsm them and call themsocialists? :coffeepap

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
Seriously, you can cut other places, the military being a likely place. If you are really serious, you might look at how he proposed doing it and disect that. It would be a start.

I think the Prof missed this. :coffeepap

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
Republicans won't do that. Will you criticsm them and call themsocialists? :coffeepap

I don't have a lot of use for RINO's and support Conservative principles. SS isn't a conservative principle nor was it ever. It is what it is however and there isn't the money to pay back the "investment" made as that money has been spent mostly on feel good social programs that only have created more dependence.

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Conservative said:
I don't have a lot of use for RINO's and support Conservative principles. SS isn't a conservative principle nor was it ever. It is what it is however and there isn't the money to pay back the "investment" made as that money has been spent mostly on feel good social programs that only have created more dependence.

They're all Rinos then as none of them will do what you ask. I look forward to you're socialist rants aimed at them. :coffeepap

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
They're all Rinos then as none of them will do what you ask. I look forward to you're socialist rants aimed at them. :coffeepap

Having too much fun poking fun at you and your socialist ideals. Why don't you admit exactly who you are and why you support socialist ideals?

The Prof · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
Most of us read for ourselves.

LOL!

yes, many of us do

but if others did, they would be aware of the refusal of doctors to treat medicare patients, they would appreciate the concerns of the blue gubs in trying to find funds to finance the enrollment of 12M new medicaid members completely on their own, they wouldn't so cavalierly click and submit such meaningless mumblings of mindlessness divorced from reality

fixing what's broken, unfortunately, is far less simple

ask cnn, the times, the dem gubs...

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Conservative said:
Having too much fun poking fun at you and your socialist ideals. Why don't you admit exactly who you are and why you support socialist ideals?

I'm not a socialist. I'm fine with business making a profit, and letting the market decide all things other than medicine and education. Don't see me dictering over the price of saving a loved one. And since as a nation we've decided we won't turn people away from the emergency room, we do have to have a plan to pay for it.

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

The Prof said:
LOL!

yes, many of us do

but if others did, they would be aware of the refusal of doctors to treat medicare patients, they would appreciate the concerns of the blue gubs in trying to find funds to finance the enrollment of 12M new medicaid members completely on their own, they wouldn't so cavalierly click and submit such meaningless mumblings of mindlessness divorced from reality

fixing what's broken, unfortunately, is far less simple

ask cnn, the times, the dem gubs...

I don't know anyone who is unaware.

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
I'm not a socialist. I'm fine with business making a profit, and letting the market decide all things other than medicine and education. Don't see me dictering over the price of saving a loved one. And since as a nation we've decided we won't turn people away from the emergency room, we do have to have a plan to pay for it.

Socialists want a single payer system where it is the government making those payments. Socialists have no problem with raising taxes and redistributing wealth. Socialists believe it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take care of state and local personal social issues. Yes, Boo, you are a socialist but for some reason refuse to admit it.

Boo Radley · Nov 5, 2010

Conservative said:
Socialists want a single payer system where it is the government making those payments. Socialists have no problem with raising taxes and redistributing wealth. Socialists believe it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take care of state and local personal social issues. Yes, Boo, you are a socialist but for some reason refuse to admit it.

You're mistaken and don't really understand what socialism is. It's common among your side. I could link a site for you to explain further if you're interested. :coffeepap

Conservative · Nov 5, 2010

Boo Radley said:
You're mistaken and don't really understand what socialism is. It's common among your side. I could link a site for you to explain further if you're interested. :coffeepap

Tell me which principle I posted isn't supported by socialists?