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2010 Midterm Results Discussion

I beat you to it a few pages back... hehehehe

yeah but I am watching the Strickland camp now and they won't concede since there are lots of dem heavy precincts still to report
 
Paladino concession speech proves him a dick.
 
Ohio was just called for Kasich and I couldn't be happier. I grew up in Ohio and it was depressing to go back there the last couple years and see the malaise, high unemployment, and so many discouraged people. It is great to see Ohio returning to conservative values and talk about a repudiation of Obama. How many times did he visit Ohio to try and pull this out for Strickland? Should be an interesting press conference tomorrow.

Happy to see Cincinnati results as well as that is really home.

I went back and forth on Strickland vs Kasich because I believe Strickland is basically a decent man and he has been pro gun since being a congressman. Kasich I think is an opportunistic weasel to some extent-he voted for the gun ban after voting against it to get Clinton to sign his Penny-Kasich bill. But I ended up voting for Kasich after weighing the fact that Kasich's running mate if solidly pro gun, and Strickland's is not and the reapportionment is a powerful tool the governor will have and several small business owners-including my father in law strongly favored former businessman Kasich.

as I noted, a tough call
 
Boehner crying like a little girl. :(

Booze will do that to you.

He'll really be crying when he and his party don't produce and Obama is a shoe in in 2012.
 
Booze will do that to you.

He'll really be crying when he and his party don't produce and Obama is a shoe in in 2012.

you sound rather bitter

I know Boehner

he's a self made man which is also true with Steve Chabot

If the GOP won the senate I figure that would guarantee boy wonder winning

everything is up for grabs for 2012 at this point
 
The PA senate seat has just been called for the Republican. Toomey wins in PA.
 
Booze will do that to you.

He'll really be crying when he and his party don't produce and Obama is a shoe in in 2012.
With the economy at best months away from any significant recovery, it's hard to envision a scenario where Obama is a "shoe-in".
 
NBC won't call Kasich v Strickland YET for the reasons I listed a few posts ago
 
Michelle Bachman won her race in Minnesota... That's good news.
 
Ohio was just called for Kasich and I couldn't be happier. I grew up in Ohio and it was depressing to go back there the last couple years and see the malaise, high unemployment, and so many discouraged people. It is great to see Ohio returning to conservative values and talk about a repudiation of Obama. How many times did he visit Ohio to try and pull this out for Strickland? Should be an interesting press conference tomorrow.

Happy to see Cincinnati results as well as that is really home.
me believes you are reading a tad bit to much into this....the governor race is not a blow out by any stretch of the imagination, and ohio certainly isnt going to turn to 'your' brand of conservatism.
 
you sound rather bitter

I know Boehner

he's a self made man which is also true with Steve Chabot

If the GOP won the senate I figure that would guarantee boy wonder winning

everything is up for grabs for 2012 at this point

Not bitter just stating the facts. If you rest on your laurels in politics you're only fooling yourself. There's a lot of work to be done and i doubt the GOP is up to it. Boehner's arrogant dispostion will get the republicans nowhere.

Are you sure you know him? Everyone I know in Ohio calls him Boner.
 
Mark Kirk was just called as the winner in the IL Senate seat.
 
I think those that are voting in the Republicans in the house right now wants their people to find the common ground with Obama on things they can, but doesn't want them to just go along with the President with token compromises or compromise on principles that were the BASIS for their vote just for the sake of compromise.

If they "compromise" and do another stimulus, that's not what people are saying with this vote imho. If they "compromise" and keep the health care bill in place that's not what these people are saying with this vote imho. If they "compromise" and do away with the Bush Tax cuts right now that's not what these votes are saying right now. If they "compromise" and enact Cap and Trade that's a bit more hampered than Obama would like that is not what the people voting them in want. If they "compromise" and give amnesty to illegals before showing legitimate and long lasting securing and enforcement of immigration laws that's not what these people are saying with this vote.

Do they want this congress to work with the president? Yes. They want them to work with them to get things passed that they are saying they want in regards to the things that these republicans campaign on, but on things they campaigned AGAINST they want them to work against those things not "compromise" to make those things happen.

I agree, Republicans need to come into this saying they want to work together...the tone to take with this though is wanting to "work together" to fix the things the public is upset with by removing them/stopping them and starting anew, and to "work together" to implement the things that the two can find common ground on.

If they go in and "compromise" by not trying to remove this health care plan, allowing a watered down cap and trade to be passed, allow a path to citizenship without tangible security and enforcement happening, compromise in more stimulus type spending, compromise in raising taxes or letting tax cuts go away then they're going to be "compromised" out of office come the next primaries.

There are issues where Obama has signaled his willingness to work with Republicans on issues that they have traditionally cared about. Free trade, education reform, tax cuts for the middle class, etc. Boehner's speech made me skeptical if they'll actually work with him though...or if they'll either A) move the goal posts a bridge too far to get Democratic support, or B) disavow their previously-held positions since they're now being proposed by a Democratic president.

As for the issues that you mentioned: I think it's important that Republicans recognize how much leverage they actually have. Repealing health care reform and/or extending all of the Bush tax cuts is flat-out not going to happen. Obama doesn't NEED to compromise at all; he already got his way, and if Congress takes no action, the status quo is the Democratic position. At most, the Republicans might be able to work with the Democrats to change the laws in ways that are mutually agreeable to all of them.

As for the other two issues you mentioned. Cap-and-trade was already dead on arrival, so I doubt it's on the agenda at all. For that matter, neither is immigration reform...at least not as a serious policy change (although the Dems might introduce it as a wedge issue knowing that it will lose).
 
Not bitter just stating the facts. If you rest on your laurels in politics you're only fooling yourself. There's a lot of work to be done and i doubt the GOP is up to it. Boehner's arrogant dispostion will get the republicans nowhere.
agreed...now he has to lead, and cant sit back and just pisss, beyatch, and moan....big change for him, and i doubt he is up to it.
 
everything is up for grabs for 2012 at this point

A lot can happen in two years.


Meh, it looks like the Republicans take the House and Democrats keep the Senate. And now with the GOP even further to the right, it is less likely that anything will get done in Congress.
 
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