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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ran from the election results?

    I'm well aware the Dems took a hammering. And rightfully so, they're as full of **** as Republicans are, as I've always said.

    Sometimes it bothers me in certain regards, because there are many legitimate reasons to shaft the Dems and Obama if you really think about it, the problem is, that's not what Republicans run on.

    You don't win elections by pointing out whats actually wrong and having constructive critisism, you win elections by painting Obama as Satan, which is the ONLY THING the Republicans have been doing for the last 2 years. That's pretty much it. They have no new ideas, they have no ideas at all I think, and although the Dems deserved a hammering for being a miserable excuse for a party, you just went ahead and replaced them with another pathetic excuse for a party.

    Legitimate concerns about Obamas presidency have been drowned out by other bollocks that is inconsequential.

    So in short, thanks for replacing one group of assholes, with another.
    The trouble is you and others are only hearing half the story from a biased partisan media. Read Erick Cantor's 22 page game plan, Read Paul Ryan's Roadmap. Have you seen any of those published in the media. Why not?

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, like all liberal programs Medicare costs billions more than intended but since you don't apparently see the cost you ignore them.
    And does more than intended. Doing more ususally costs more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And does more than intended. Doing more ususally costs more.
    So then what you are saying with 30 million more added to the roles that the Obamacare will cost more than it was projected? Thanks for finally admitting that thus no deficit reduction.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So then what you are saying with 30 million more added to the roles that the Obamacare will cost more than it was projected? Thanks for finally admitting that thus no deficit reduction.
    If it does more than intended, it will cost more. No one has ever suggested otherwise. But instead of whining, if it does more, we should either draw back, or find a way to pay for it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If it does more than intended, it will cost more. No one has ever suggested otherwise. But instead of whining, if it does more, we should either draw back, or find a way to pay for it.
    Wrong, don't seem to remember previous posts as to how this is going to save money. It doesn't save money costing more.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, don't seem to remember previous posts as to how this is going to save money. It doesn't save money costing more.
    Previous post from who? I said a unviersal payer would save money. Measured against what we're doing now. We don't have a universial payer.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, don't seem to remember previous posts as to how this is going to save money. It doesn't save money costing more.
    Obama and Biden said it would lower costs and save money...

    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issue...reFullPlan.pdf

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Obama and Biden said it would lower costs and save money...

    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issue...reFullPlan.pdf
    In the long run it may. But it will likely require more work. What we do know is it costs a crap load now, before reform, for very little. if we got more and it cost more, that might make it worth it as cost is only part of the equation. But, I would like to see them work to reduce costs.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Previous post from who? I said a unviersal payer would save money. Measured against what we're doing now. We don't have a universial payer.
    And as I pointed out, accurately, Medicare hasn't saved the country any money and costs billions more than intended. Nothing the govt. does is effecient.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In the long run it may. But it will likely require more work. What we do know is it costs a crap load now, before reform, for very little. if we got more and it cost more, that might make it worth it as cost is only part of the equation. But, I would like to see them work to reduce costs.
    Costs who a "crap load" Federal or state taxpayers?

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