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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm actually pretty happy with the way things turned out. Each party has control of one house of congress now, so hopefully we'll see some actual bi-partisan politics. Maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up though.
    I voted Buck (R) for senate and Markey (D) for house, and what do you know, both lost! It split the other way in colo though, with bennet (D) for senate and Gardner (R) for the house, which I was at least happy about. Its always good to have a mixture of views.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Democrats are probably poised to lose more Senate seats in 2012...but not because of anything that happened last night, or because I think the economy is still going to be bad, or because I think that Obama is still going to have approval ratings in the mid-40s, or any other such nonsense. Two years is a long time in politics or economics. It's impossible to predict what the economy will be like in 2012, or what the political scene will be like in 2012.

    However, the Democrats probably WILL lose more Senate seats, purely for structural reasons that have nothing to do with policy, ideology, or the state of the nation. This class of senators was last elected in 2006...a Democratic wave year. As a result, Democrats are defending 23 seats and the Republicans are defending only 10. As a result, the Republicans will have more pickup opportunities. Furthermore, since it's a presidential election year, Democrats are probably more likely to win in blue states and Republicans are more likely to win in red states...whereas that trend is less pronounced in midterms. Unfortunately for the Dems, they are defending three seats in solid red states (ND, NE, MT) whereas the Republicans are defending only two in solid blue states (ME, MA). Additionally, ALL of the swing states with a senatorial election in 2012 have Democratic incumbents (except for Nevada).

    This indicates to me that Democrats would lose Senate seats in a NEUTRAL political environment. In order to not lose any seats in 2012, they're probably going to need another big wave year like 2006.
    Obama's out in 2012. Unless we went through a golden age, unprecedented in American history, he's gone and even then, he's going to have a helluva time hanging on.

    In his speech today, he refused to admit that his Socialist agenda has been rejected by the American people. He still thinks we just don't understand what he's trying to do. As long as he has that attitude, this will be his only term as president.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    I'm glad to see that Charlie Melancon's lie'n ass went down, hard. With a little luck, this is the end of his political career.

    I was disappointed to see Joe Cao go down, but not at all surprised, since La 2 is a Section 5 district and Richmond is black. The only reason Cao got elected, to begin with, was because most of the residents from the district were scattered across the south and didn't get to vote.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

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    Obama's out in 2012. Unless we went through a golden age, unprecedented in American history, he's gone and even then, he's going to have a helluva time hanging on.


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    In his speech today, he refused to admit that his Socialist agenda has been rejected by the American people. He still thinks we just don't understand what he's trying to do. As long as he has that attitude, this will be his only term as president.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama's out in 2012. Unless we went through a golden age, unprecedented in American history, he's gone and even then, he's going to have a helluva time hanging on.

    In his speech today, he refused to admit that his Socialist agenda has been rejected by the American people. He still thinks we just don't understand what he's trying to do. As long as he has that attitude, this will be his only term as president.
    Maybe he along with his 3000 entourage and 40 aircraft going to India will stay there although India doesn't appear to be interested in the Obama style economics

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama's out in 2012. Unless we went through a golden age, unprecedented in American history, he's gone and even then, he's going to have a helluva time hanging on.

    In his speech today, he refused to admit that his Socialist agenda has been rejected by the American people. He still thinks we just don't understand what he's trying to do. As long as he has that attitude, this will be his only term as president.
    I wouldnt count on it.I would say the current republicans are gonna nominate someone who has no chance of winning.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post


    Kandahar, looks to me like you are in the only city in the country that isn't affected by the Obama economic policy, D.C. thus out of touch with reality. Apdst got it right, Obama still doesn't get it and probably never will. He either changes or is a one term President.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    I wouldnt count on it.I would say the current republicans are gonna nominate someone who has no chance of winning.
    They could nominate anyone to run against the Obama record and win but regardless anyone they run has more experience than Obama has even after 2 years in office. He has played a lot of golf and gone on a lot of vacations however. Why is he taking 3000 people in 40 aircraft to India and taking over the entire Taj Mahal hotel of 576 rooms. You are probably right the Republicans probably cannot come up with someone who has as much experience taking vacations.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Kandahar, looks to me like you are in the only city in the country that isn't affected by the Obama economic policy, D.C. thus out of touch with reality.
    Actually I just posted a fairly non-partisan, objective read of the 2012 Senate landscape, based purely on structural factors, without even pretending I could predict the mood of the electorate in 2012. Apdst responded with the latest infantile talking points he heard from Glenn Beck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative
    Apdst got it right, Obama still doesn't get it and probably never will. He either changes or is a one term President.
    Sure, because we all know that no president has ever recovered from a 45% approval rating, and no recession has ever ended. That would just be unthinkable.

    My advice to Republicans today would be the same advice I had for Democrats in 2008: Don't think that this is a permanent change, or you will become complacent. The Democrats (and some Republicans) who were proclaiming a generational realignment and/or the death of the GOP in 2006/2008 were, of course, being ridiculous. The Republicans who today are proclaiming that the American people hate Obama and will never reelect him are just as ridiculous.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Actually I just posted a fairly non-partisan, objective read of the 2012 Senate landscape, based purely on structural factors. Apdst responded with the latest infantile talking points he heard from Glenn Beck.



    Sure, because we all know that no president has ever recovered from a 45% approval rating, and no recession has ever ended. That would just be unthinkable.

    My advice would be the same advice I had for Democrats in 2008: Don't read too much into it. The Democrats (and some Republicans) who were proclaiming the Death of the GOP in 2006/2008 were, of course, being ridiculous. The Republicans who today are proclaiming that the American people hate Obama and will never reelect him are just as ridiculous.
    I think you, like Obama, don't have a clue what the American people said yesterday. I heard no one claim they hated Obama, it is his policies that most people hate and it doesn't do the President any good when the people are told that they are just impatient and really don't understand the good things "I" have done for them. That is liberal arrogance and someone out of touch with reality. It was a historic defeat and rejection of the Obama economic agenda based upon actual results. Now I know you are inside the beltway and probably do very little research but the American people get it, Obama passed the stimulus plan in February 2009, the recession ended in June 2009 according to NBER and since that time we have 4 million more unemployed, on a month to month basis unemployment is higher this year than last year, and we have 3 trillion added to the debt. That is what people outside the beltway see. Maybe those inside should open their eyes.

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