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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by progressiveny View Post
    All of the republican "wins" proves many Americans still cannot accept President Obama, as president. I never seen in politics a president who could not have -4- years to help out this nation and international policies.

    A long list of presidents, including Bush Jr, received their full terms without so much personal and political attacks compared to what President Obama still receives.

    This has nothing to do with the GOP political envision. If anyone thinks whatever "smaller government" means will regenerate anything positive- is mistaken.

    This is a sign that many American's do not want someone like President Obama to succeed and I think any American who does not what his / her president to succeed is a traitor and very anti-American.

    I wish President Obama will stop making apologies for his presidency; he doesn't need too. He is doing all he can in a slow divided congressional dynamic.

    President Obama should publicly confront all these traitors who only want him to fail because of his tone of skin.

    I have seen nothing during his presidency that would make me say he is not trying. The Bush Administration did not try to help our nation as a whole, because that wasn't their collective agenda.

    If Clinton did not have the success due to the "Internet curiosity", what would have occurred during his presidency as well. But no one questioned Clinton and both Bush's tone of skin, ethnicity, race, character, etc. No one in America! No one hid behind politics to personally attack our last three presidents and thereafter.

    This "message" was just another message in America that no matter how much you love this country or how much you would like to allow her to succeed, you will not receive the full support of this nation if you look like President Obama.

    It's this simple and this tragic. It appears President Obama but be perfect in his next 2 yrs at president to be considered to have another term and that itself is also tragic.
    Two observations: History began prior to January, 2009. You should look into it.

    Secondly, race only has to do with this insofar as Obama's lickspittles use it to assail others with policy differences. In other words, the only people paying attention to race are people like you, thus it is you that is the real racist.

    The rest of your post is facile, idiotic drivel that doesn't merit a legitimate response.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by progressiveny View Post
    All of the republican "wins" proves many Americans still cannot accept President Obama, as president. I never seen in politics a president who could not have -4- years to help out this nation and international policies.

    A long list of presidents, including Bush Jr, received their full terms without so much personal and political attacks compared to what President Obama still receives.

    This has nothing to do with the GOP political envision. If anyone thinks whatever "smaller government" means will regenerate anything positive- is mistaken.

    This is a sign that many American's do not want someone like President Obama to succeed and I think any American who does not what his / her president to succeed is a traitor and very anti-American.

    I wish President Obama will stop making apologies for his presidency; he doesn't need too. He is doing all he can in a slow divided congressional dynamic.

    President Obama should publicly confront all these traitors who only want him to fail because of his tone of skin.

    I have seen nothing during his presidency that would make me say he is not trying. The Bush Administration did not try to help our nation as a whole, because that wasn't their collective agenda.

    If Clinton did not have the success due to the "Internet curiosity", what would have occurred during his presidency as well. But no one questioned Clinton and both Bush's tone of skin, ethnicity, race, character, etc. No one in America! No one hid behind politics to personally attack our last three presidents and thereafter.

    This "message" was just another message in America that no matter how much you love this country or how much you would like to allow her to succeed, you will not receive the full support of this nation if you look like President Obama.

    It's this simple and this tragic. It appears President Obama but be perfect in his next 2 yrs at president to be considered to have another term and that itself is also tragic.
    Typical rant when losing. Obama lost about 12% of the voters that voted for him. He set the bar way too high but is living up to his resume. He has shown that he is a community agitator and not a leader as his economic plan is one of massive expansion of govt and wealth redistribution, both totally rejected last night. It isn't the Federal responsibility to create jobs, create wealth, provide personal responsibility issues. Obama overreached and failed. You and others should have paid closer attention to his resume as you got exactly the person you voted for, an empty suit with no leadership skills or business understanding.

    Results matter, not rhetoric, 4 million more people unemployed today than when Obama took office, higher unemployment on a month to month basis this year vs. last year when the recession ended, and it only cost 3 trillion dollars to generate those results. He overreached on healthcare trying to force Americans to buy what they don't want. He spent most of the stimulus money on Democrat constituent groups and state responsibility issues, and he basically told the American people I know best what is right for you. Last night the majority in this country told Nancy Pelosi, "YOU'RE FIRED!" and if Obama doesn't improve that will be him in 2012

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by progressiveny View Post
    All of the republican "wins" proves many Americans still cannot accept President Obama, as president. I never seen in politics a president who could not have -4- years to help out this nation and international policies.

    A long list of presidents, including Bush Jr, received their full terms without so much personal and political attacks compared to what President Obama still receives.

    This has nothing to do with the GOP political envision. If anyone thinks whatever "smaller government" means will regenerate anything positive- is mistaken.

    This is a sign that many American's do not want someone like President Obama to succeed and I think any American who does not what his / her president to succeed is a traitor and very anti-American.

    I wish President Obama will stop making apologies for his presidency; he doesn't need too. He is doing all he can in a slow divided congressional dynamic.

    President Obama should publicly confront all these traitors who only want him to fail because of his tone of skin.

    I have seen nothing during his presidency that would make me say he is not trying. The Bush Administration did not try to help our nation as a whole, because that wasn't their collective agenda.

    If Clinton did not have the success due to the "Internet curiosity", what would have occurred during his presidency as well. But no one questioned Clinton and both Bush's tone of skin, ethnicity, race, character, etc. No one in America! No one hid behind politics to personally attack our last three presidents and thereafter.

    This "message" was just another message in America that no matter how much you love this country or how much you would like to allow her to succeed, you will not receive the full support of this nation if you look like President Obama.

    It's this simple and this tragic. It appears President Obama but be perfect in his next 2 yrs at president to be considered to have another term and that itself is also tragic.
    Boo hoo hoo.

    Why do you have "wins" in quotation marks? Are you claiming they weren't actual wins?
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Democrats are probably poised to lose more Senate seats in 2012...but not because of anything that happened last night, or because I think the economy is still going to be bad, or because I think that Obama is still going to have approval ratings in the mid-40s, or any other such nonsense. Two years is a long time in politics or economics. It's impossible to predict what the economy will be like in 2012, or what the political scene will be like in 2012.

    However, the Democrats probably WILL lose more Senate seats, purely for structural reasons that have nothing to do with policy, ideology, or the state of the nation. This class of senators was last elected in 2006...a Democratic wave year. As a result, Democrats are defending 23 seats and the Republicans are defending only 10. As a result, the Republicans will have more pickup opportunities. Furthermore, since it's a presidential election year, Democrats are probably more likely to win in blue states and Republicans are more likely to win in red states...whereas that trend is less pronounced in midterms. Unfortunately for the Dems, they are defending three seats in solid red states (ND, NE, MT) whereas the Republicans are defending only two in solid blue states (ME, MA). Additionally, ALL of the swing states with a senatorial election in 2012 have Democratic incumbents (except for Nevada).

    This indicates to me that Democrats would lose Senate seats in a NEUTRAL political environment. In order to not lose any seats in 2012, they're probably going to need another big wave year like 2006.
    word

    spot on perspective, i'm impressed

    it's not partisan to point out the obvious

    beyond harry reid, CA, mike buck, joe manchin (who only won because he put a bullet thru cap and trade, poster boy of anti-obamite democracy), joe miller and patty murray, there's hardly a ray of light for our luckless loser on pennsylvania ave

    already in the crosshairs of neanderthals like me---ben nelson in nebraska, kent conrad (the gatekeeper's right hand man on obamacare, budget chair), jon tester in montana, sherrod brown in ominous ohio, bill nelson in florida (where the gop is galluping), claire mccaskill in always correct missouri (where roy blunt beat rubberstamp robin carnahan by FOURTEEN---uneheard of in the 50-50 show me state)...

    combat boots webb in virginia (who will face former superstar gub and senator george allen, son of the hall of fame coach and brother of bruce allen who used to be al davis' gm in oakland before heading to tampa bay with gruden---we'll see if the super con from the commonwealth can overcame the macaca moment, 2006), maria cantwell the junior senator from washington...

    and manchin's reupped in 2012---how do you think that's gonna affect his behavior in '11?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44289.html
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by progressiveny View Post
    President Obama should publicly confront all these traitors who only want him to fail because of his tone of skin.

    This "message" was just another message in America that no matter how much you love this country or how much you would like to allow her to succeed, you will not receive the full support of this nation if you look like President Obama.
    what's changed since november, 08, exactly two years ago?

    in a thread dominated on one side by LINKS and on the other by courageless excuse making, this is the most pathetic rationalization i've encountered

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Folks are so busy arguing over who did what first, whos fault this and that problem is...that nothing gets fixed. Our problems dont lay at the Republican's feet, they don't lay at the Democrat's feet, and they certainly don't lay at President Obama's feet... It's everyones fault. It is our own greed, our selfishness, and our inability to work together to solve a problem that has landed us in this mess. The only way any of it is ever going to get fixed is if we all work together, democrats and republicans and independents.

    I am definitely not President Obama's biggest fan, but I will say one thing for him. HE DID SOMETHING. Yes, he also did his fair share of laying blame and hiding behind that; but he did SOMETHING to try and fix what he saw as the problems we face. The people elected him to do what he stated he wanted to do as he was running for office, and that is what he did. You can pretty much go down the list of his campaign promises and see that he has worked to fulfill at least partially almost every one of them...is that not why we elect folks????? We get mad at politicians for not doing what we elected them to do, but now we are mad at President Obama for trying to do exactly what he said that he would do. And the fact that republicans dont like Obama really has little to do with what color he is, and a lot to do with the fact that he has a D next to his name. Wouldn't matter if he were a blond haired, blue eyed, high powered white executive type, so long as he is a democrat, republicans wont like him and wont support him. Wow, no wonder we have issues.

    The only thing this election says to me is this... Many Americans are still out of work and struggling, and right or wrong they feel that it is Obama's fault, so they voted for the other guys. I think all we got from this election is more of the same. It was exciting to watch, but unfortunately I don't really expect to gain anything. Republicans will still be blaming democrats and democrats blaming republicans ... but I certainly hope I am wrong. I hope that we as a country and our leaders have had enough bickering and pandering and decide that it is time to actually come together and do something to fix the issues our country and our people face. But I am not holding my breath.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    I am definitely not President Obama's biggest fan, but I will say one thing for him. HE DID SOMETHING.
    he certainly did

    "voters say they cast their ballots against obama and pelosi:" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39990920...decision_2010/
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    I get that. I totally realize that people do not like the direction things are going in and that is why they voted for the Republicans. All I am saying is this. The people elected him to do what he said he wanted to do, he did what he said he was going to do (some areas, some areas not, some still to come im sure)...and now folks are mad. We do it all the time. We vote for one side, wait we dont like them, we vote for the other side, wait we dont like them. I am just saying its frustrating to want to see actual things done that are good for our country as a whole, and getting the same ole BS after every election, thats all.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    I'm actually pretty happy with the way things turned out. Each party has control of one house of congress now, so hopefully we'll see some actual bi-partisan politics. Maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up though.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm actually pretty happy with the way things turned out. Each party has control of one house of congress now, so hopefully we'll see some actual bi-partisan politics. Maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up though.
    I would love to see that happen. Actual bi-partisan politics. Unfortunately, if our history is any indication, I really don't see that happening.

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