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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Here's the most recent figures for CO. Good race still going on there for the Senate.

    United States Senator
    88% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
    Michael Bennet (D / Inc.) 779,661 47%

    Ken Buck (R) 772,105 47%

    Bob Kinsey (Grn) 35,605 2%

    Maclyn Stringer (Lib) 20,489 1%

    Jason Napolitano (Ref) 17,920 1%

    Charley Miller (Un) 10,492 1%

    J. Moromisato (Un) 5,283 0%


    U.S. House Of Representatives - Dist. 5
    99% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
    > Doug Lamborn (R / Inc.) 149,187 66%

    Kevin Bradley (D) 66,243 29%

    Brian Scott (Amer) 5,676 3%

    Jerell Klaver (Lib)
    At this point Michael Bennet will almost certainly win, regardless of what the current results show. The outstanding votes are mostly from deep blue areas of Colorado.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

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    Right, Obama said, "We won, you lost" great way to compromise. I can only hope for that same kind of compromise now.
    Well, the Democrats had large enough margins that they didn't really NEED to compromise very much, aside from occasionally pulling a few Republicans along with them. For that matter, the Republicans didn't really need to compromise with Obama for the same reason. That has (hopefully) changed now. Since nothing is going to get done now without some bipartisan compromise, it is my hope that they will work together. Obama has indicated he'd like to work with the House Republicans. Boehner has given mixed signals about his willingness to work with Obama. I hope he proves to be more pragmatic now that he's the Speaker of the House.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    At this point Michael Bennet will almost certainly win, regardless of what the current results show. The outstanding votes are mostly from deep blue areas of Colorado.
    I hope so since he gave this victory speech.
    Bennet headed back to the Senate - The Denver Post
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Democrats lose centuries of seniority in House - Washington Times

    please think about what this means moving forward

    seeya in 2012

    but in the meantime, there's the bush tax cuts---what's leadership gonna do, why can't they declare, why do they look so effete?

    there's the fed's announcement this morning---another HALF TRIL of quantitative easing (think about what this means)

    there's CHARLIE RANGEL and MAXINE WATERS---massive, embarrassing ETHICS trials---on the immdiate horizon

    MEET jo bonner, your new CHAIR of house ETHICS

    there's the battleground soon to be in all our faces over this mendacious mandate upon individuals to go out and BUY FOR THEMSELVES blue cross

    there's florida---19 of 25 house districts this morning republican

    do you appreciate florida's frontal role in presidential electorals?

    there's ohio---13 of 18 reps are red

    pennsylvania---12 of 19

    michigan---9 of 15

    virginia---12 of 13

    the key commonwealth in 2000 was of course battleground-gore, florida

    in 04 it was ohio

    in 08, the mother of presidents, virginia

    that's how far obama had moved the map

    now it's new jersey, 6 of 11 house seats gop

    washington, 5 of 9

    illinois, 10 of 19

    etc

    SEA CHANGE, baby!

    hang on

    seeya in the parlors, progressives

    what's your stand on bush tax cuts, again?

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

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    Unfortunately the same quality run for public office. the only entity in the country that is recession proof is the Federal Govt. Amazing to me what passion liberals have for taking other people's money and their own ignorance in that some of that money comes from them. If they truly cared about how much money the govt gets they would send more of their paycheck without being asked.
    What amazes ME is that you can talk about how ignorant liberals are in one sentence, and then in the very next sentence display ignorance of a basic principle of economics: the Free Rider Problem. Of course no one is going to voluntarily contribute more of their paycheck to government; no one wants to pay for public goods because their marginal cost would outweigh their marginal benefit. This is why the government must mandate that EVERYONE does it.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What amazes ME is that you can talk about how ignorant liberals are in one sentence, and then in the very next sentence display ignorance of a basic principle of economics: the Free Rider Problem. Of course no one is going to voluntarily contribute more of their paycheck to government; no one wants to pay for public goods because their marginal cost would outweigh their marginal benefit. This is why the government must mandate that EVERYONE does it.
    but not everyone, nay, the majority, doesn't want the service to begin with! That's not free-riding, that's a representation problem!

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    The Democrats are probably poised to lose more Senate seats in 2012...but not because of anything that happened last night, or because I think the economy is still going to be bad, or because I think that Obama is still going to have approval ratings in the mid-40s, or any other such nonsense. Two years is a long time in politics or economics. It's impossible to predict what the economy will be like in 2012, or what the political scene will be like in 2012.

    However, the Democrats probably WILL lose more Senate seats, purely for structural reasons that have nothing to do with policy, ideology, or the state of the nation. This class of senators was last elected in 2006...a Democratic wave year. As a result, Democrats are defending 23 seats and the Republicans are defending only 10. As a result, the Republicans will have more pickup opportunities. Furthermore, since it's a presidential election year, Democrats are probably more likely to win in blue states and Republicans are more likely to win in red states...whereas that trend is less pronounced in midterms. Unfortunately for the Dems, they are defending three seats in solid red states (ND, NE, MT) whereas the Republicans are defending only two in solid blue states (ME, MA). Additionally, ALL of the swing states with a senatorial election in 2012 have Democratic incumbents (except for Nevada).

    This indicates to me that Democrats would lose Senate seats in a NEUTRAL political environment. In order to not lose any seats in 2012, they're probably going to need another big wave year like 2006.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    but not everyone, nay, the majority, doesn't want the service to begin with!
    Well that's why we have a republic, with periodic elections. If you don't like what your representatives are doing, vote for someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12
    That's not free-riding, that's a representation problem!
    No, it's Free Riding...and is the main reason we HAVE government programs. If the private sector could effectively and profitably provide all the things that society demands, then we wouldn't need government to do so. But the private sector can't.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    the mainstream media are finally starting to catch up with your prescient prof

    House Map - Election Results 2010 - The New York Times

    nyt has between 63 and 67 net pickups for the party of lincoln

    i can simplify that a smidgen for you, if you'd like

    if you give gabby giffords and raul grijalva to the dems (which you should, they're gonna be pretty hard to overtake at this point), ben chandler in KY, dan maffei in NY, gerald connolly in fairfax (north VA, the most important district in the country, the burbs outside the beltway, where incumbent connolly is leading by .4%, 900 votes, heading into a likely recount)---all dem "holds..."

    and if you courageously call jim costa in CA's central valley for the cons, he's trailing cherry picker from hanford andy vidak by 2.8% with 100% counted...

    then you're looking at a clearer conceit---reds will pickup 64 net, with 3 races still too close for anyone to call:

    melissa bean in IL8, where reds lead by half a percent with 99% in

    jerry mcnerny, my district, CA11, where hard hitting david harmer is ahead by .1% with 99% accounted

    and WA2, where incumbent rick larsen trails upstart john koster, 49.6 to 50.4, with, however, only 64% of the vote vouched for

    bottom line---you're looking at a gop PLUS of net 63 or 64 or 65

    that includes, by the way, the THREE red to blue backsliders the party in power managed to pilfer---cao in new orleans, carney in castle's delaware, and charles djou in honolulu which my side only bagged in february because boss inouye held his breath until he was blue

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    All of the republican "wins" proves many Americans still cannot accept President Obama, as president. I never seen in politics a president who could not have -4- years to help out this nation and international policies.

    A long list of presidents, including Bush Jr, received their full terms without so much personal and political attacks compared to what President Obama still receives.

    This has nothing to do with the GOP political envision. If anyone thinks whatever "smaller government" means will regenerate anything positive- is mistaken.

    This is a sign that many American's do not want someone like President Obama to succeed and I think any American who does not what his / her president to succeed is a traitor and very anti-American.

    I wish President Obama will stop making apologies for his presidency; he doesn't need too. He is doing all he can in a slow divided congressional dynamic.

    President Obama should publicly confront all these traitors who only want him to fail because of his tone of skin.

    I have seen nothing during his presidency that would make me say he is not trying. The Bush Administration did not try to help our nation as a whole, because that wasn't their collective agenda.

    If Clinton did not have the success due to the "Internet curiosity", what would have occurred during his presidency as well. But no one questioned Clinton and both Bush's tone of skin, ethnicity, race, character, etc. No one in America! No one hid behind politics to personally attack our last three presidents and thereafter.

    This "message" was just another message in America that no matter how much you love this country or how much you would like to allow her to succeed, you will not receive the full support of this nation if you look like President Obama.

    It's this simple and this tragic. It appears President Obama but be perfect in his next 2 yrs at president to be considered to have another term and that itself is also tragic.

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