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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So which is it, Democrats tried to compromise with Republicans or didn't they? How do you explain Democrats outspending Republicans in this election? Guess it only matters when corporations that actually employ people and make payrolls spend their money instead of unions spending their workers' money!
    as has been explained several times now, unions, by law, can't spend 'dues' money on elections.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Their only concern for the last 2 years was trying to paint the President as Satan.
    nonsense, we principally opposed him on issue after issue CUZ HE'S WRONG

    from suing arizona to moving ksm to manhattan to trying to reachout to iran to backing this stupid LOCAL mosque in new york...

    all the poison in the obamacare...

    we LIKE the 26 year old's on dad's dole, we LIKE the pre-existing provisions

    they're palliatives microscopic in comparison to the tons of strychnine contained---the individual mandate (which aint goin nowhere), the taxes on benefits and devices, the imposition of 200B unfunded on already brokebacked states, the expansion of the m's by 12 million with no funding, the demand that employers insure up to 750K, the demand that insurers limit all overhead costs to 15%, the 1099's...

    etc, etc, etc---we KNOW what's in this bill

    if obama comes off looking bad (comparison to satan is absurd), it's cuz HE DID all the idiocy above, you can't blame us for not going along

    our united and principled opposition may have put the president's perturbations on more hi profile display

    but that would be his fault too

    man up
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hardly. Not really heartbroken over all this.
    Sure you are.

    Since I really couldn't care less you're giving the keys back to the dudes who crashed the car in the first place.

    Yeah right Mr. "Other"......As you use the worn out Obama lines......

    Nice Job
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So which is it, Democrats tried to compromise with Republicans or didn't they? How do you explain Democrats outspending Republicans in this election? Guess it only matters when corporations that actually employ people and make payrolls spend their money instead of unions spending their workers' money!
    I'm saying that neither of the two major parties makes a serious effort to "compromise" with the opposition when in power. How much candidates spend doesn't seem particularly relevant to that issue. I was referring to the GOP penchant for siding with businesses when their interests collide with the interests of consumers and individuals. An an example, how many GOPers supported the banking and credit card reform legislation that went into effect while the Dems had total control? (That's the legislatin that stopped some of the anti-consumer practices of banks and credit card companies. That kind of legislation never seems to see the light of day when the GOP is in control.)

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    as has been explained several times now, unions, by law, can't spend 'dues' money on elections.
    Really? where did the unions get the money then to support Democrats? Money for unions doesn't come from its members? Interesting

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    on every piece of legislation that came out the past few years....perhaps if obama and the dems truly did shut them out of everything, and ignored them, maybe more would have gotten done and quicker.
    Voters to Dems... stop. Just stop.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    I'm saying that neither of the two major parties makes a serious effort to "compromise" with the opposition when in power. How much candidates spend doesn't seem particularly relevant to that issue. I was referring to the GOP penchant for siding with businesses when their interests collide with the interests of consumers and individuals. An an example, how many GOPers supported the banking and credit card reform legislation that went into effect while the Dems had total control? (That's the legislatin that stopped some of the anti-consumer practices of banks and credit card companies. That kind of legislation never seems to see the light of day when the GOP is in control.)
    Businesses actually employ people thus why shouldn't government side with business? Democrats were wiped out last night and there is a reason for it, big govt. siding with special interests including the unions

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? where did the unions get the money then to support Democrats? Money for unions doesn't come from its members? Interesting
    When I belonged to a union, they solicited donations to their PACs. These were not dues money, and they were not tax deductible. I chose not to donate to them because I figured that, if I felt inclined to donate to some candidate's campaign (which I didn't), I'd just as soon give the money directly, not to some PAC that would decide for me who would get the money. The donations were truly voluntary and I never felt pressured or strongarmed to donate.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    as has been explained several times now, unions, by law, can't spend 'dues' money on elections.
    Well, that's just not true either is it now Randel?

    In reality, the biggest outside spender is the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, which is pumping almost $88 million into TV commercials, phone banks, and mailings to promote Democratic candidates.

    “We’re spending big,’’ AFSCME President Gerald McEntee boasted to The Wall Street Journal. “And we’re damn happy it’s big. And our members are damn happy it’s big — it’s their money.’’

    AFSCME isn’t the only public-sector union “spending big’’ to influence the vote on Nov. 2. So is the National Education Association and the Service Employees International Union, respectively the nation’s largest and fastest-growing unions. Together, the three government-employee unions will have spent nearly $172 million campaigning for Democrats in the course of this election cycle. That outstrips by more than $30 million what the Chamber of Commerce and the Rove network combined are pouring into the 2010 campaign.

    The ‘big dog’ in campaign spending - The Boston Globe
    Truth is that while you liberals cry about lobbyists, and special interests, Unions are among the biggest special interests in the game. And the most destructive to our system.

    Here, inform yourself.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Businesses actually employ people thus why shouldn't government side with business?
    Depends on the context your talking about. Government shouldnt get in the way of business but only act as a referee and even that roll should be minimal.
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