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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    a direct consequence of tsunami tuesday:

    in my state of CA, the nation's biggest, voters on nov 2 (prop 20, passed 69% to 31) took the power of redistricting or gerrymandering AWAY from the assembly and turned it over anew to some "apolitical," "bipartisan" commission, the first 3 of whom are chosen at random from a pool of auditors, those 3 then going on to pick the next 11 members

    the result, out here on the left coast, is "political armageddon," according to politico, and i'm certainly in no position to dispute it

    this state, you see, has been drawn along "coddled" lines, both sides, republicans and democrats are practically unbeatable, only one CA congressperson has lost a seat since 06...

    The redistricting committee is poised to dismantle an exquisitely gerrymandered map that has provided incumbents nearly unparalleled stability, with just one member of the delegation losing a seat since 2006. The committee has taken on a decidedly apolitical format by choosing not to take incumbent residency or political data into account. The group is composed largely of political neophytes, including a chiropractor, an architect and an insurance agent.
    that one defeated delegate since 06 must be republican richard pombo in my home district, CA11, the east bay

    my district, by the way, in 2010 came down to a recount, very close, incumbent dem jerry mcnerny (who has a phd in math) barely beating challenger david harmer who also happened to lose the special a year earlier to john garamendi (november, 09, the nite chris christie took trenton, bob mcdonnell won richmond, and dede scozzafava screwed up my party's chances in NY23) in the district just to the west of CA11, walnut creek, where i grew up

    ellen tauscher was moved up to work with hillary at state, creating the opening next door in CA10

    the entire CA map with all 53 districts is being radically redrawn along, presumably, more demographic and less incumbency-interested lines

    the map was configured out here in the first place by phil burton, brother of ultra powerful john burton from sf, longtime president of the senate til he was term limited, now chair of the state party

    after the burtons it was the bermans, michael and howard, most responsible for drawing the districts we operated with from 2000 until today

    the seats made so safe are today sat in by 34 blues and 19 reds

    fyi

    California lawmakers brace for bombshell - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    the first shoe to fall from CA's radical new redistictring process, approved by voters on nov 2, 69 to 31:

    Lynn Woolsey to announce retirement - Dan Hirschhorn - POLITICO.com

    ms woolsey, fyi, is leader of the house progressive caucus

    she's from marin, northern foot of the golden gate opposite sf, regularly lampooned for its counterculture exclusivity

    she's very close to nancy, when they lost in november smart money was either might well retire

    instead, the palsied speakeress grasped for the gavel

    ms woolsey's exit after 10 terms was expected for months, she openly floated the prospect in december

    but her objection to this radical, "apolitical" redrawing of district lines, which sliced napa/sonoma out of her territory, was by far the loudest in CA, most of which has been mostly mute

    she called the new lines drawn by the new redistricting panel, which is now independent of the assembly, "invasive surgery"

    fyi

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the first shoe to fall from CA's radical new redistictring process, approved by voters on nov 2, 69 to 31:

    Lynn Woolsey to announce retirement - Dan Hirschhorn - POLITICO.com

    ms woolsey, fyi, is leader of the house progressive caucus

    she's from marin, northern foot of the golden gate opposite sf, regularly lampooned for its counterculture exclusivity

    she's very close to nancy, when they lost in november smart money was either might well retire

    instead, the palsied speakeress grasped for the gavel

    ms woolsey's exit after 10 terms was expected for months, she openly floated the prospect in december

    but her objection to this radical, "apolitical" redrawing of district lines, which sliced napa/sonoma out of her territory, was by far the loudest in CA, most of which has been mostly mute

    she called the new lines drawn by the new redistricting panel, which is now independent of the assembly, "invasive surgery"

    fyi
    if it got her to finally retire, it sounds more like surgery to remove a cancerous growth.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    demise of the blue dogs, 6 months later: The end of the Blue Dog Democracy - POLITICO.com

    on november 2, 2010, there were 54 serving members of the bluedog caucus

    24 hours later, there were 26

    since then, 3 more have quit---jane harman in CA, joe donnelly in IN and dan boren in OK

    another, NC's heath shuler, this week reportedly considered becoming the athletic director at the university of tennessee

    Heath Shuler reportedly in talks to leave House for athletic director job - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

    the redistricting of the tarheels is described as a "buzzsaw," a "bulldozer"

    N.C. Dems brace for GOP remap - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

    brad miller, david price, mike mcintyre and larry kissell, as well as shuler, are targeted

    fyi

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Arkansas Democrats face extinction - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

    another dog departs, mike ross retires in arkansas

    he was the last remnant of the state party which produced fulbright, dale bumpers, the clintons

    reds took the senate seat from ms lincoln, a pair of house seats (vic snyder and marion berry) that had been blue practically since old hickory andrew jackson, 7 seats in the state's upper house, 14 in the lower...

    arkansas makes good case study

    RealClearPolitics - Imperiled Blue Dogs: Moderates Face Tough Odds in Polarized Times

    there aren't many blue states left

    west virginia shares many demographic similarities with the razorbacks, watch west virginia

    fyi

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Arkansas Democrats face extinction - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com

    another dog departs, mike ross retires in arkansas

    he was the last remnant of the state party which produced fulbright, dale bumpers, the clintons

    reds took the senate seat from ms lincoln, a pair of house seats (vic snyder and marion berry) that had been blue practically since old hickory andrew jackson, 7 seats in the state's upper house, 14 in the lower...

    arkansas makes good case study

    RealClearPolitics - Imperiled Blue Dogs: Moderates Face Tough Odds in Polarized Times

    there aren't many blue states left

    west virginia shares many demographic similarities with the razorbacks, watch west virginia

    fyi
    I'm not sure how much it really matters if blue dog democrats become republicans. They more or less vote the same way. Meanwhile, we're seeing some hardcore republican districts turning blue for the first time in decades. In at least one case it was the first time in over a century.

    I think the current level of disgust is very high which should have the effect of erasing some of the republicans 2010 gains the next time around.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not sure how much it really matters if blue dog democrats become republicans. They more or less vote the same way.
    obamacare would not be law without the 29 votes in assent from the once mighty blue dog caucus

    baca, bishop, boswell, cardoza, cooper, costa, cuellar, donnelly, giffords, michaud, sanchez, schiff, schrader, scott, thompson, berry, ellsworth, moore, arcuri, bean, carney, dahlkemper, hill, mitchell, murphy, pomeroy, salazar, space, wilson

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    obamacare would not be law without the 29 votes in assent from the once mighty blue dog caucus

    baca, bishop, boswell, cardoza, cooper, costa, cuellar, donnelly, giffords, michaud, sanchez, schiff, schrader, scott, thompson, berry, ellsworth, moore, arcuri, bean, carney, dahlkemper, hill, mitchell, murphy, pomeroy, salazar, space, wilson
    That's a fair point, but as I said, I think the loss in the South will be more than offset by gains elsewhere going forward.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's a fair point
    ya think?

    LOL!

    I think the loss in the South will be more than offset by gains elsewhere going forward
    share it with someone who values your opinion

    on nov 2, 2010, republican representation in the united states house increased in the NORTHEAST from 11% (8 of the 73 house seats) to 26% (19 seats)

    in the RUST belt, reds expanded from holding 44% of the districts to controlling 68% of them today (from 39 of the 89 seats to 61 of em)

    in the SOUTH, knuckle draggers grew from 59 to 74% representation

    in the MIDWEST, 56% of the congressmen and women were gop, now 75%

    in the ROCKIES, 50% to 71%

    in the WEST, 34 to 40%

    republicans picked up 6 net seats in new york, 5 each in ohio and pennsylvania, 4 in illinois and florida, 3 in virginia and tennessee and texas, 2 in indiana and wisconsin and michigan and new hampshire and arkansas and mississippi and the dakotas and colorado and arizona...

    republicans seized control of lower legislatures in colorado, indiana, iowa, michigan, montana, ohio, oregon, pennsylvania, republicans stole from democrats the upper house in new york, and republicans gained brand new control of BOTH houses in alabama, maine, minnesota, new hampshire, north carolina and wisconsin

    the gubships of iowa, wisconsin, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, tennessee, maine, new mexico, wyoming, kansas and oklahoma

    senate seats from pennsylvania, wisconsin, illinois, arkansas, indiana and north dakota

    tsunami tuesday had almost nothing to do with the south
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