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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    You're the one throwing out numbers, without any reasoned analysis, yet you want ME to analyze them! I've not asked you to blame Bush, contrary to your claim; I've merely pointed out that you are conveniently making excuses for him while pinning the entire blame for many things on the current POTUS, without considering the role of prior events.

    Oh, yeah, I notice that the GDP figures and the debt figures have been going up steadily during the time frame you selected to show, even when your conservative heroes have been at the helm, and that unemployment figures started accelerating under the watch of one of those heroes.
    What you don't seem to understand is that results matter not rhetoric. GDP growing 4.5 trillion dollars is incredible dollar growth, the highest 8 year growth in U.S. history, hardly the disaster Obama claims. Debt is a problem and there is no question that Bush and the Congress spent too much during the 8 years of Bush but the Congress and Obama put Bush spending on steroids. There is no analysis required, the numbers are what they are. Notice the 4 million less employed today than when Obama took office. Since the recession ended in June 2009 how do you explain it? Unemployment always goes up during a recession but at not time in history after a recession ended did the unemployment continue to rise well over a year after the end of the recession.

    You want badly to believe the liberal rhetoric but the facts refute that rhetoric. I learned a long time ago to trust but verify, something you need to adopt. You buy the liberal rhetoric because that is what you want to believe. Growing up a Democrat I bought the rhetoric too until the late 70's and the lightbulb went off. It will for you one day too.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    If the numbers are so "important," then why did you just post them with no commentary on your part? You're making a lot of personal comments about me when you don't know me, but you aren't doing squat to show how the numbers you throw out support your position, whatever that may be.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    If the numbers are so "important," then why did you just post them with no commentary on your part? You're making a lot of personal comments about me when you don't know me, but you aren't doing squat to show how the numbers you throw out support your position, whatever that may be.
    I posted the numbers that I commented on, guess I have to lead you by the hand and even then you aren't going to buy what you are told from those that for some reason you want to believe.

    Look, you voted to hire Obama to improve the economy and to fix the "mess" but as the numbers show he has made a bigger mess and things aren't any better and in fact in the important areas unemployment and debt are worse. How do you explain it and please don't give me the Obama line that things were worse than he expected. The results I posted show that things weren't worse and his economic policies haven't improved the economy but they have increased the debt and unemployment.

    Did you miss the election last Tuesday? 682 State legislators were changed to the Republicans and 65 net House seats were captured. If things were getting better then the American people would have given Obama a vote of confidence but instead gave him a "shellacking." How do you explain it?

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I posted the numbers that I commented on, guess I have to lead you by the hand and even then you aren't going to buy what you are told from those that for some reason you want to believe.

    Look, you voted to hire Obama to improve the economy and to fix the "mess" but as the numbers show he has made a bigger mess and things aren't any better and in fact in the important areas unemployment and debt are worse. How do you explain it and please don't give me the Obama line that things were worse than he expected. The results I posted show that things weren't worse and his economic policies haven't improved the economy but they have increased the debt and unemployment.

    Did you miss the election last Tuesday? 682 State legislators were changed to the Republicans and 65 net House seats were captured. If things were getting better then the American people would have given Obama a vote of confidence but instead gave him a "shellacking." How do you explain it?
    Quit blabben conservative, Id like to see the numbers as well. Kinda like to compare them numbers with what I have in my folder.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Quit blabben conservative, I’d like to see the numbers as well. Kinda like to compare them numbers with what I have in my folder.
    No you don't want to see the numbers or you would have read Post 1039, now quit trolling

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No you don't want to see the numbers or you would have read Post 1039, now quit trolling
    BUT,BUT, arnt you going to
    "guess I have to lead you by the hand "
    i,m hurt i tell ya, hurt.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

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    2010 Midterm Results DiscussionYou two knock it off. If you think some one is trolling, use the report post button. Talk about the topic, not each other, not veiled insults.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    I feel that the following contribution to this thread is highly important and completely in keeping with the topic of this thread:

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

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    I'm surprised you guys aren't bouncing off the walls, what with all the coffee I've seen you drinking...
    Coffee's good. I drink several pots a day.




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    Re: 2010 Midterm Results Discussion

    My Way News - Bad news Democrats _ 2012 could be worse than 2010

    Last week's election was bad for Democrats. The next one could be worse. Senate Democrats running in 2012 will be trying to hold their jobs in states where Republicans just scored major congressional and gubernatorial victories - Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Mexico and Virginia.

    The Democrats' problems don't end with senators.

    President Barack Obama carried those states in 2008, and he will need most of them to win re-election in two years. But this time they all will have Republican governors. These GOP governors can try to inhibit the president's policies and campaign operations. They also can help steer next year's once-a-decade House redistricting process in the GOP's favor.

    Moreover, Democrats must defend Senate seats in hotly contested Missouri, and in four states that Obama has little chance of winning, assuming he even tries: North Dakota, Nebraska, West Virginia and Montana.

    The 2012 Senate map is much kinder to Republicans, who must defend 10 seats to the Democrats' 23. Except for Republican Sen. Scott Brown, who will fight an uphill re-election battle in Massachusetts, the GOP probably will be favored to keep the Senate seats it now holds.

    Democrats will try to win back some of the 60 House seats they lost to Republicans last week, but several factors will work against them. Republicans won gubernatorial and state legislative races in dozens of states. That will give them total or substantial control of the often partisan redrawing of House districts that will occur next year, following the latest U.S. Census. It's likely to result in several new GOP-leaning districts in states such as Texas at the expense of Democratic-leaning districts in the Rust Belt.

    Democrats may find it especially hard to win back Southern seats lost last week by white Democrats, who are becoming almost extinct in much of the former Confederacy. And if Speaker Nancy Pelosi remains her party's House leader, Republicans will tell voters that Democrats did not learn their lesson from the 2010 election and need more convincing.
    spin, anyone?

    hey, if red states have been awarded SIXTEEN brand new congressional districts via the census and, therefore, SIXTEEN brand new electoral votes for the presidency, at the expense of blue states, could your OPINION about how things SHOULD be make the REALITY any bluer?

    LOL!

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