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McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

TheGirlNextDoor said:
As of this writing, if you choose to have children - your employment will be considered for termination. We figure it won't be cost effective to keep you on as an employee as your insurance costs will be more expensive for you AND for me. Therefore, you will not be allowed to have children. We hope you understand and will choose to make the right decision.

I have the right to disregard this as well... and he certainly has the right to state his beliefs. Right?

Please.

I'm as Libertarian as anyone - but really? How much power DO we give employers to hold over their employees? I'm not so much into the anarchy of the LP, apparently as I still believe employess should still have some rights in the workplace...
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That is a valid criticism of the employer, especially if they are forced to cover your medical benefits.
As of right now, they aren't, so you can merely get your medical insurance outside of the employer.

You have a right to find a new job, if you don't like the person you're working for.
That's it, besides physical and mental abuse.
 
randel said:
your ok with those tactics being used? good grief
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Tactics?
If the employer really believes that, a particular political ideology with hurt his business, he has all the right to defend it.

As far as politicians making unfounded claims of negative economic consequences, I don't believe them anyway, so their tactics don't work on me like that.
 
It is more concerning to me that there is no law which forces companies to give their employees time to go vote without facing consequences.

I have never understood why election days are in the middle of the week when a lot of people are working.
 
Orion said:
It is more concerning to me that there is no law which forces companies to give their employees time to go vote without facing consequences.
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The polls are open from 6am to 9pm. Unless you work straight from 6-9, why should an employer have to give you time off during the middle of the day?

I have never understood why election days are in the middle of the week when a lot of people are working.
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On the weekend, people are on vacations/traveling/drinking/watching sports/etc. I would wager that turnout would be lower if elections were on the weekend.
 
Orion said:
It is more concerning to me that there is no law which forces companies to give their employees time to go vote without facing consequences.

I have never understood why election days are in the middle of the week when a lot of people are working.
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RightinNYC said:
The polls are open from 6am to 9pm. Unless you work straight from 6-9, why should an employer have to give you time off during the middle of the day?



On the weekend, people are on vacations/traveling/drinking/watching sports/etc. I would wager that turnout would be lower if elections were on the weekend.
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Actually many states and provinces have laws on the books that require employers to give employees time off to vote without a deduction in pay. This of course only matters if said employee is working during almost all the time the polls are open. If a person has time before or after work to vote then the employer will not be required to give the employee time to vote nor pay for that time
 
pbrauer said:
Wow, this is the way to win elections....
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Question - did McDonald's put a gun to the employees heads and order them to vote Republican? I didn't think so. No story here, and by the same token, I also support the right of a Democrat who works at or owns a McDonald's to do the same thing. It's called freedom of speech.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Actually many states and provinces have laws on the books that require employers to give employees time off to vote without a deduction in pay. This of course only matters if said employee is working during almost all the time the polls are open. If a person has time before or after work to vote then the employer will not be required to give the employee time to vote nor pay for that time
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In Indiana, the polls were only open from 7 AM to 6 PM where I lived (EST). There are many days where I would work that entire time.
 
We didn't give any warnings or tell anyone how to vote, but after the 2006 elections we terminated several. After the 2008 elections, we terminated a lot more.

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Don't know how good of a metric this is but if you Bing "republican vote buying" you get 2,100,000 hits.

If you Bing "democrat vote buying" you get 3,490,000.

Seems that there is plenty on both sides. Doesn't mean that its not something to be diligent about, but it isn't something on which either side can claim any moral high ground (and that is a shame).
 
Orion said:
It is more concerning to me that there is no law which forces companies to give their employees time to go vote without facing consequences.

I have never understood why election days are in the middle of the week when a lot of people are working.
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Absentee/early voting is offered on weekends. No one can offer up the excuse that they didn't have time off, to vote.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Um, no.

I'm saying "it's illegal" is not in and of itself enough of an argument for why anybody should avoid doing anything.
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Dude, you are making no sense. Laws have to be followed.
 
Kali said:
Dude, you are making no sense. Laws have to be followed.
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Dude, you are making no sense. Laws are broken all the time. Have you never exceeded the speed limit? :roll:

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TheGirlNextDoor said:
Are you kidding me?

I am against Obama-care (that's another thread topic entirely) but the bottom line is - what this man did was illegal. Period. If I got a polical 'threat' with pamphets with my paycheck stub? I would own that restaurant.

Do YOU want someone shoving their politics down your throat with the threat of losing your job? That is OK with you?
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How would they know who you vote for? You can still vote for anyone you want.
 
Bonnie Franklin said:
How would they know who you vote for? You can still vote for anyone you want.
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Doesnt matter if they know who you voted for, it is the principal of the thing, are you ok with someone forcing their politics down your throat with the threat of losing your job?
 
danarhea said:
Question - did McDonald's put a gun to the employees heads and order them to vote Republican? I didn't think so. No story here, and by the same token, I also support the right of a Democrat who works at or owns a McDonald's to do the same thing. It's called freedom of speech.
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I don't know if it falls into the category of protected speech if you are using your position as an employer to pressure your employees to vote a particular way. It's almost feudal, as if this restauranteur thinks that his employees are serfs that he owns.
 
the money spent on political activities is raised by donation, by the political arms of the various unions
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I don't know if it falls into the category of protected speech if you are using your position as an employer to pressure your employees to vote a particular way. It's almost feudal, as if this restauranteur thinks that his employees are serfs that he owns.
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Damn, Catz. I can't remember the last time we disagreed on something. LOL.

All McDonald's is doing is enclosing flyers with the paychecks. They are not ordering anybody to do anything. I don't see the pressure you are talking about.
 
Sounds like this franchise owner dressed up like a Union Boss for Halloween.

Also sounds like McDonald's might be cutting medical benefits like a lot of other companies are doing.
 
danarhea said:
Damn, Catz. I can't remember the last time we disagreed on something. LOL.

All McDonald's is doing is enclosing flyers with the paychecks. They are not ordering anybody to do anything. I don't see the pressure you are talking about.
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there is an implied threat, that unless you vote a certain way, things won't go well for the company, and hence, you.
 
Ohio Revised Code - Title XXXV Elections - Section 3599.05 Corrupt practices - employer shall not influence political opinions or votes of employees.

No employer or his agent or a corporation shall print or authorize to be printed upon any pay envelopes any statements intended or calculated to influence the political action of his or its employees; or post or exhibit in the establishment or anywhere in or about the establishment any posters, placards, or hand bills containing any threat, notice, or information that if any particular candidate is elected or defeated work in the establishment will cease in whole or in part, or other threats expressed or implied, intended to influence the political opinions or votes of his or its employees.

Whoever violates this section is guilty of corrupt practices, and shall be punished by a fine of not less than five hundred nor more than one thousand dollars.

Effective Date: 10-01-1953​
 
randel said:
there is an implied threat, that unless you vote a certain way, things won't go well for the company, and hence, you.
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and he is correct; McDonalds only has a one-year protection from Obamacare. mind you, the way this guy went about it was dumb, and apparently illegal to boot; but let's not pretend like he was threatening individual workers.
 
cpwill said:
and he is correct; McDonalds only has a one-year protection from Obamacare. mind you, the way this guy went about it was dumb, and apparently illegal to boot; but let's not pretend like he was threatening individual workers.
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lol...yes, he was...either vote this way, or expect to not get a raise, or better benefits...sounds like a threat to me.
 
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