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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    This letter violates a 1953 Ohio statute that prohibits political material from being attached to wage envelopes.
    The law your pointing out:

    No employer or his agent or a corporation shall print or authorize to be printed upon any pay envelopes any statements intended or calculated to influence the political action of his or its employees; or post or exhibit in the establishment or anywhere in or about the establishment any posters, placards, or hand bills containing any threat, notice, or information that if any particular candidate is elected or defeated work in the establishment will cease in whole or in part, or other threats expressed or implied, intended to influence the political opinions or votes of his or its employees.

    Ohio Revised Code - Title XXXV Elections - Section 3599.05 Corrupt practices - employer shall not influence political opinions or votes of employees. - Ohio Attorney Resources - Ohio Laws

    If there are charges brought against McDonalds, the lawyers will fight over the bolded part of the law above. Technically, McDonalds did not print it on the envelope - whether that holds up in court or legally the limited scope of the law as it was modified matches, we'll have to wait and see.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Why do we give a hoot about any employer asking any employee to vote for any particular candidate?

    They can't follow you into the voting booth. Hell, unless they've got too much time on their hands they won't even know if you voted at all.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The law your pointing out:

    No employer or his agent or a corporation shall print or authorize to be printed upon any pay envelopes any statements intended or calculated to influence the political action of his or its employees; or post or exhibit in the establishment or anywhere in or about the establishment any posters, placards, or hand bills containing any threat, notice, or information that if any particular candidate is elected or defeated work in the establishment will cease in whole or in part, or other threats expressed or implied, intended to influence the political opinions or votes of his or its employees.

    Ohio Revised Code - Title XXXV Elections - Section 3599.05 Corrupt practices - employer shall not influence political opinions or votes of employees. - Ohio Attorney Resources - Ohio Laws

    If there are charges brought against McDonalds, the lawyers will fight over the bolded part of the law above. Technically, McDonalds did not print it on the envelope - whether that holds up in court or legally the limited scope of the law as it was modified matches, we'll have to wait and see.
    Oh the loopholes! The franchise owner has apologized and admitted he made an error in judgement. Personally, I am satisfied with that and see no reason to indict the man.

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Why do we give a hoot about any employer asking any employee to vote for any particular candidate?

    They can't follow you into the voting booth. Hell, unless they've got too much time on their hands they won't even know if you voted at all.
    This is why you should care. An employee reading this who voted for Obama might fear for or lose their job working for this guy!

    Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care - Orlando Sentinel

    MOUNT DORA — A doctor who considers the national health-care overhaul to be bad medicine for the country posted a sign on his office door telling patients who voted for President Barack Obama to seek care "elsewhere.""I'm not turning anybody away — that would be unethical," Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican opposed to the health plan, told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it."The sign reads: "If you voted for Obama … seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    Oh the loopholes! The franchise owner has apologized and admitted he made an error in judgement. Personally, I am satisfied with that and see no reason to indict the man.
    Loopholes. A lawyers bread and butter.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I might be wrong, but something doesn't seem completely legal about this. Anyone know if it is OK to do something like this?
    The article indicates that this is illegal.

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    This is why you should care. An employee reading this who voted for Obama might fear for or lose their job working for this guy!
    But he can't possibly know how you voted, so what the hell does it matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care - Orlando Sentinel

    MOUNT DORA — A doctor who considers the national health-care overhaul to be bad medicine for the country posted a sign on his office door telling patients who voted for President Barack Obama to seek care "elsewhere.""I'm not turning anybody away — that would be unethical," Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican opposed to the health plan, told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it."The sign reads: "If you voted for Obama … seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."
    Completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by sokpupet View Post
    This is why you should care. An employee reading this who voted for Obama might fear for or lose their job working for this guy!

    Doctor tells Obama supporters: Go elsewhere for health care - Orlando Sentinel

    MOUNT DORA — A doctor who considers the national health-care overhaul to be bad medicine for the country posted a sign on his office door telling patients who voted for President Barack Obama to seek care "elsewhere.""I'm not turning anybody away — that would be unethical," Dr. Jack Cassell, 56, a Mount Dora urologist and a registered Republican opposed to the health plan, told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. "But if they read the sign and turn the other way, so be it."The sign reads: "If you voted for Obama … seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years."
    You are over the top. Nothing in the writing suggests someone would lose their job. Also just from a common sense standpoint, how would someone know who someone else voted for?

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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The article indicates that this is illegal.
    The article should state this MAY be illegal. Which is why jounalists are not also judge/jury and executioners.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: McDonald’s Workers Are Told Whom to Vote for

    Yeah, the owner is wrong for asking his employees to vote Republican, yet this can be perfectly fine....

    Two days ago, the Democratic Secretary of State announced that voters can be provided "free food" at "voter turnout events." Harry Reid has been offering free food and, according to other reports, some Democratic allies such as teachers' unions are offering gift cards in return for a vote for Reid.

    Angle campaign attorney: Reid "intends to steal this election if he can't win it outright" - Politics: Ralston's Flash - Las Vegas Sun
    Wonderful world we live in isn't it?


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