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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually I took communion as a child. By my old church's doctrine that means I am forever a Christian no matter how much I may sin. I no longer have a choice in the matter, any sin I committ is absolved. I simply will sit in a lower house in heaven for my unrighteous and misguided deeds on Earth.
    That is not backed up by any biblical precident at all. That is man's law, not God or anything in scripture.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Darkwizard12 already touched on it but let me continue...

    Matthew 19: 3-6 3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?"
    4 And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,
    5 "and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
    6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."
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    He made man and woman for a reason, and says "let no man seperate." Not hard to understand.
    I wanted to put that down, but really, wasn't his question already answered twice before? If he doesn't understand now, there is really no use in beating a dead horse.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Did he say that before or after he was resurrected?
    Does not matter. It was not even Jewish law at the time. What does that tell you.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is not backed up by any biblical precident at all. That is man's law, not God or anything in scripture.
    But so much that is written in the Bible is man's law, not God's law. It's fun trying to separate the two, is it not?

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Interesting interpretation.

    He was talking about divorce.
    Actually he was talking about marriage in general. Please don't play stupid with me, it will not work.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Jesus loves gays but homosexuality is a sin. How can this man openly live in sin and call himself a Christian? He's a hypocrite.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Does not matter. It was not even Jewish law at the time. What does that tell you.
    Sorry, I acidentally pasted by earlier response. What I meant was he was simply speaking of divorce, it had nothing to do with homosexuality. You are reading too much into his words.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    But so much that is written in the Bible is man's law, not God's law. It's fun trying to separate the two, is it not?
    No it's not. Everything in the Bible is God's law, period. Nice strawman though.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Actually he was talking about marriage in general. Please don't play stupid with me, it will not work.
    Once you are married, don't get divorced. That is the lesson. Stop trying to read more into that there is.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sorry, I acidentally pasted by earlier response. What I meant was he was simply speaking of divorce, it had nothing to do with homosexuality. You are reading too much into his words.
    I am not reading anything into the words. He said and I quote "God created man and woman to be together, not man and man, or woman and woman. In marriage he said let NO man tear asunder. Meaning no one.

    Your argument is weak and basically you are trying to play a game of semantics. Either give me a real argument or I guess we are done?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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