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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    BD, if we carry this out, I am going to enter the realm of attacking your religious beliefs. I would rather not do it, so let's just take go with an "agree to disagree" thing here please.
    You can attack it if you like, I have no problem being shown I am wrong.

    Be warned I am well versed in the Bible and can show you what it says with crystal clarity.

    In the end it will be irrelevant because his religion (seems to be Baptist) dictates it is a sin, so Mellie is not wrong.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 10-29-10 at 10:38 PM.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Already took care of yours. It was easy. Painfully easy.
    That was an attack? Okay.....

    Your response was the equivalent to "nuh uh".


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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not get to determine who or what is a christian. Sorry.
    But you can?....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not get to determine who or what is a christian. Sorry.
    Absolutely correct, but the Bible does since it is it's teachings that are the cornerstone of being a Christian.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not get to determine who or what is a christian. Sorry.
    I never did. Even the best christians sin...according to the bible...7 times daily, at least. That's why I said it's between him and God.

    I didn't write it, sorry

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You can attack it if you like, I have no problem being shown I am wrong.

    Be warned I am well versed in the Bible and can show you what it says with crystal clarity.

    In the end it will be irrelevant because his religion (seems to be Baptist) dictates it is a sin, so Mellie is not wrong.
    Who is the real christians, Old Earth christians, or New Earth christians?
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I never did. Even the best christians sin...according to the bible...7 times daily, at least. That's why I said it's between him and God.

    I didn't write it, sorry
    I have said the same thing twice, and no one seems to care about that part.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 10-29-10 at 10:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is the real christians, Old Earth christians, or New Earth christians?
    It is not important because old or new, the morality of the law stays the same.

    Red, that was a really lame attempt. It has nothing to do with being a Christian, as it is history, not the law.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    The dead horse has been beaten. If you want to be a christian, it's a sin. Don't like it? Take it up with God. Neither of us wrote the bible. The pastor knows this already and why he kept it hidden from the church.
    Really. Where is this belief written in the words of Christ?

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Really. Where is this belief written in the words of Christ?
    Romans 1:18 24-2624Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

    26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.


    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    Matthew 19: 3-6 3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?"
    4 And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,
    5 "and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
    6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."


    Don't think it could be any clearer than that.

    If you are a Christian, homosexuality is lumped in with fornication and adultery etc. So it is not unusual, and Christians sin all the time. We can be forgiven if we repent and surrender our lives to Christ. This is where the problem starts.

    People seem to be of two basic schools of thought. Christians are hypocrites because they just keep doing the same old things. (we are supposed to become Christian robots.) Or we should follow secular thought and keep our "laws" and views of "hell" to ourselves.

    To both of these I say get a clue. Christians are sinners and no better than anyone else. In the end it will be God who decides what. What this does not mean is we cannot rally against sin when we see it.

    So take it or leave it.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 10-29-10 at 11:17 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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