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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, Jesus didn't. He merely said not to destroy someone's marriage. He acceptedthe current version of marrigae, but did not say we could not define another version. Though I honestly didn't see your more recent links connected to that one.
    Jesus makes it very clear that those who follow Him and aspire to His Kingdom have an obligation to obey and uphold God's law. He is saying that we cannot diminish from the law of God by even a jot or tittle (sermon on the mount.) This is in direct contradiction to your statements.

    'God made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.'

    Notice he did not say...

    "God created them male and male. For a man shall leave his father and be joined to his husband, and the two shall become one flesh"

    Not to mention what Paul wrote. People seem to take what he/she wants from the Bible, and leaves the rest if it does not agree with the secular view. This is wrong according to scripture.

    Paul was a true profit, and his word was God's law and he clearly (as you mentioned) states which is which. You can ignore it, and follow the worldly path, but as I have shown, that is not correct according to scripture.

    I guess we are done as you have yet to answer or reply to the scripture I posted, or address my answers other than to say you don't agree with no evidence.

    So I will agree to disagree and not hijack the thread any longer.

    Have a good one.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which laws? Pork?
    The problem with this is that the dietary laws of the Old Testment were specifically repealed. There is no contradiction in that. Nothing in the Bible, to my knowledge, states that sexual sins are suddenly ok.

    ...just wanted to correct you on that point. Carry on.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    The problem with this is that the dietary laws of the Old Testment were specifically repealed. There is no contradiction in that. Nothing in the Bible, to my knowledge, states that sexual sins are suddenly ok.

    ...just wanted to correct you on that point. Carry on.
    All of the Old Testament laws were repealed with the new covenant with Christ.

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    All of the Old Testament laws were repealed with the new covenant with Christ.
    Why not just say it: sin isn't a sin anymore. this "sin" is now a figment of God's imaginition, because we feel like better christians that way.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

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    All of the Old Testament laws were repealed with the new covenant with Christ.
    That's only partially correct. Most Old Testament laws were all repealed with the exception of those that were reiterated in the New Testament, sexual immorality being among those that was not lifted. Certain things in the Bible are just hard-line nonnegotiables. Basically, the laws that were lifted were related to the sacrificial/covenant relationship that God made with His Chosen People.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    All of the Old Testament laws were repealed with the new covenant with Christ.
    No. The Law was fulfilled, not repealed. We, who believe, live under grace. The Law is not done away with though. Just our relationship to it has changed.

    The book of Romans deals with this tension very explicitly, and even instructs what to do when there is no clear scriptural direction given (Chapter 14), though there is much clarity on this issue under both covenants.

    It is clear to me through the Old and New Testaments, and via the Holy Spirit who lives in me that I must avoid sexual immorality. And it is difficult for every man I know... this can be a lifelong struggle. It is also clear that sex with my own gender is not something that brings glory to my creator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    All of the Old Testament laws were repealed with the new covenant with Christ.
    That's like saying Verizon retracted the bill when you paid it (btw Verizon ftw kthxbylol)
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Kudos to Jim Swilley for disowning hypocrisy and being honest, not only to his parishioners, but to himself as well. Yes, Jesus loves gays too. He only hates hypocrites.

    Well done, pastor, and God bless you.

    Article is here.
    This is a pretty long thread, but has anyone pointed out the irony that while gays can't get married he's a gay who can marry straight couples?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    This is a pretty long thread, but has anyone pointed out the irony that while gays can't get married he's a gay who can marry straight couples?
    Wow you're right, he should be kicked out of the church immediately. That would fix it.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    What's he been doing in that closet all these years?
    Don't work out, work in.

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