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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Ahhh, but what does that mean? Eating too much will lead me to distruction. Sounds like a warning many could make today.
    Hehehe, it is actually much simpler than that. In context we know exactly what he is talking about...

    Matthew 7:13-20 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.


    It is clear we are to follow the law as set down, and not listen to false profits.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    ^ The trick is discovering who are the false prophets and who are not.

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    ^ The trick is discovering who are the false prophets and who are not.
    There is no trick to this. The passage I posted tells you how...

    Matthew 7:15-20 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    It is pretty simple.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    There is no trick to this. The passage I posted tells you how...

    Matthew 7:15-20 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    It is pretty simple.
    Like I said that's the trick, recognizing them.

    I wouldn't consider this pastor a false prophet, but other people may, nothing is ever so cut and dry.

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    Like I said that's the trick, recognizing them.

    I wouldn't consider this pastor a false prophet, but other people may, nothing is ever so cut and dry.
    It is very cut and dry. No profits are alive today, not one.

    He is not one and never was, he is just a man. Do you understand what a profit is according to Christianity?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is very cut and dry. No profits are alive today, not one.

    He is not one and never was, he is just a man. Do you understand what a profit is according to Christianity?
    I assumed you were talking about the pastor in which the thread is about, if not my bad. And if your talking about a prophet as in one who predicts thing's that happen, then my point is moot. But if you mean prophet as in someone who preaches about religious doctrine, then I'll stand by my statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I assumed you were talking about the pastor in which the thread is about, if not my bad. And if your talking about a prophet as in one who predicts thing's that happen, then my point is moot. But if you mean prophet as in someone who preaches about religious doctrine, then I'll stand by my statement.
    I was talking about the pastor insofar as following the narrow path and interpretation of the Bible quote. I never implied he was a profit or other than what he is. My response was to to Boo Radly, and you must have missed the point.

    No biggie.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hehehe, it is actually much simpler than that. In context we know exactly what he is talking about...

    Matthew 7:13-20 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.


    It is clear we are to follow the law as set down, and not listen to false profits.
    Which laws? Pork?

    Certianly murder isn't something we should do. But homosexuality, for example, is not listed as a law anywhere. Amny different rules are discussed or suggested at times, but manyb have gone by the wayside as times have changed and the reason they were invoke has become unneeded.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which laws? Pork?
    No. And you know that is incorrect for any reasonable person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Certianly murder isn't something we should do. But homosexuality, for example, is not listed as a law anywhere. Amny different rules are discussed or suggested at times, but manyb have gone by the wayside as times have changed and the reason they were invoke has become unneeded.
    Yes it is, by Paul directly. And Jesus set down the law for marriage directly. Just because they do not use the modern term for it means nothing really. You are trying to change the word for your own benefit rather than glorifying it. This goes against everything Jesus taught.

    Now are you going to respond to my actual point or continue with stepping to the way side?

    Going to have to wait my friend, I need to run out.

    So God bless and I will respond later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: Megachurch Pastor Comes Out Of Closet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No. And you know that is incorrect for any reasonable person.



    Yes it is, by Paul directly. And Jesus set down the law for marriage directly. Just because they do not use the modern term for it means nothing really. You are trying to change the word for your own benefit rather than glorifying it. This goes against everything Jesus taught.

    Now are you going to respond to my actual point or continue with stepping to the way side?

    Going to have to wait my friend, I need to run out.

    So God bless and I will respond later on.
    Actually, Jesus didn't. He merely said not to destroy someone's marriage. He acceptedthe current version of marrigae, but did not say we could not define another version. Though I honestly didn't see your more recent links connected to that one.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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