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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Congress makes the laws not the president............
    The president can veto any legislation that Congress passes. If you want to point out some laws that the Democratic Congress made that overrode Bush's veto and contributed to the economic recession then I would be happy to see them. If not, then I recommend you take your boot out of your mouth.

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    At what point does Hussein Obama start to take responsibilty for the miserable economy and unemployment? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? The American people are not buying the Blame Bush crap anymore...........Its your hero the socialist Hussein Obama..........
    I don't blame Obama for the bad economy at all because he had absolutely nothing to do with it...Do people fail to realize Obama created/saved millions of jobs with the Stimulus and Auto bailouts. Cutting taxes and then sitting on your hands waiting for a trickle effect isn't the answer, I wonder wear employment would be if McCain was in office. Surely you could kiss the hated Auto Bailouts and Stimulus goodbye which would lead to an unemployment of around 15%..I assume cutting the riches tax cuts would have fixed the economy overnight though right?

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Let me get this right...the survey that the Pentagon created specifically to address the challenges of repealing DADT does not actually address the issues of repealing DADT?

    here's what i'm seeing as i read through it:

    have you served with a homosexual
    did the fact that they were thought to be homosexual effect morale
    did the fact that they were thought to be homosexual effect unit performance
    can the chain of command both lead and enforce the rules
    more morale questions
    what would your family think
    i found the question "do you think having homosexuals in your unit would have a greater impact than whether or not you had decent leadership" to be pretty funny" (would you say that having someone in your unit come out would be better, or worse than having your legs sawed off slowly with a dull blade? aha - the troops support repealing DADT!) ditto for the "would you move off-base" question
    the "have you shared facilities and what did you do" question is sort of immaterial; to have done anything would have required launching criminal investigations of your bunk/shower mate.

    i saw nothing, for example, on whether or not the troops considered mixed - gender units to suffer from discipline issues stemming from the natural sexual tension between men and women, whether they thought this would carry over to openly serving homosexuals (remember that all homosexuals in the military today are officially heterosexual), what they thought the impact would be on BAH issues, whether they thought that introducing homosexuals to all-male units (such as the infantry) would be disruptive at all.... i saw alot of... well, not 'false dichotomy' type questions, but the kind i made fun of above with the leg-saw thing. this poll was designed to produce a result and it did. and yeah, most of the questions were 'how would you feel about X'. which isn't the main issue with repealing DADT; feelings and attitudes aren't immaterial, but they aren't important; any chain of command will jump on those with both feet.
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    At what point does Hussein Obama start to take responsibilty for the miserable economy and unemployment? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? The American people are not buying the Blame Bush crap anymore...........Its your hero the socialist Hussein Obama..........
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    At what point does Hussein Obama start to take responsibilty for the miserable economy and unemployment? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? The American people are not buying the Blame Bush crap anymore...........Its your hero the socialist Hussein Obama..........
    Nice try Navy...but your "Great and inspired world leader" and your Republican party is what got us into the mess that we are in....sure...Obama hasn't been able to do much to get us out if it, but you are fooling no one except yourself in trying to rescue the legacy of the disaster that you admire so greatly.
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...feelings and attitudes aren't immaterial, but they aren't important; any chain of command will jump on those with both feet.
    Tell it to NP.

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The president can veto any legislation that Congress passes. If you want to point out some laws that the Democratic Congress made that overrode Bush's veto and contributed to the economic recession then I would be happy to see them. If not, then I recommend you take your boot out of your mouth.
    Its true the president can veto any bill the problem is the democratic congress is not going to bring to the floor any bills the republican president wants....
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I don't blame Obama for the bad economy at all because he had absolutely nothing to do with it...Do people fail to realize Obama created/saved millions of jobs with the Stimulus and Auto bailouts. Cutting taxes and then sitting on your hands waiting for a trickle effect isn't the answer, I wonder wear employment would be if McCain was in office. Surely you could kiss the hated Auto Bailouts and Stimulus goodbye which would lead to an unemployment of around 15%..I assume cutting the riches tax cuts would have fixed the economy overnight though right?
    Before the stimulus unemployment was at 7%... after the stimulus it went up to 10% where it is now..............How did he save jobs?

    You don't just cut taxes my left wing friend you cut spending...............
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its true the president can veto any bill the problem is the democratic congress is not going to bring to the floor any bills the republican president wants....
    The President doesn't make laws so it doesn't matter what laws he wants.

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nice try Navy...but your "Great and inspired world leader" and your Republican party is what got us into the mess that we are in....sure...Obama hasn't been able to do much to get us out if it, but you are fooling no one except yourself in trying to rescue the legacy of the disaster that you admire so greatly.


    I am sorry DD but the facts just don't show that to be the case.........Its true Bush spent like a drunken soldier but Hussein Obama and his crew has tripled what Bush has spent without any way to pay for it...........Why do you think the massacure of democrats is happening tomorrow? Hussein Obama is just lucky he is not on the ballot to or he would be out the door on his ass where he belongs........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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