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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    [QUOTE=apdst;1059073673]The same thing could be said for people who want to be openly gay. There's absolutely no need for a person's sexuality to be an issue in the military. It's totally irrelevant to that soldier's service.

    If a person's sexuality is a mission requirement, I would love for you to explain to me how so. I can't wait.

    Its not about mission accomplishment is about their individual lives and how they can live them. You don't need to have a wife to be a good soldier so why should the Army let ANYONE marry by your logic?

    And tell me where in the Constitution it allows for DADT, good luck.

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, well!!! Tough ****!! If they don't like it, the they can get their asses out.

    That's what we've been hearing from the DADT abolitionists. Am I right?

    There's also a ban on membership in the Black Panthers. So, that may, "cause a problem", with white soldiers, too?

    Is, "unit cohesion", starting to take a whole new meaning for you, now?

    Or, do you support the things you agree with, claiming their, "Constitutional Rights", and after that the Constitution is just a, "godamned piece of paper"?
    Here's the difference, with the groups you just talked about, they would be bringing in the hate, and the problems. Now with LGBT soldiers, the argument is that homophobic soldiers would have a problem with it, but in that scenario the homophobic soldiers are the problem, not the LGBT soldiers.
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What in the hell are you talking about? Being a member of the KKK while in the military is banned because it's still listed as a terrorist organization. The same goes for the Black Panthers. The Neo-Nazis and Latin Kings are banned because they are a clearly criminal organization. The connection your are making between being gay and being a criminal or a member of an organization deemed to have engaged in domestic terrorism is a 'giganticolous' fail. Their membership is not what is in question, it is what one had to do in order to become a member of such organizations. That goes for the KKK, Neo-Nazis and Latin Kings. The Black Panthers were banned because of members who decided it was alright to kill police officers. No, no. Your arguments are bull****.
    The KKK is officially listed as a terrorist orginization? Since when?

    As far as I know, the KKK has a constitutional right to exist, along with the Nazis and the Skin Heads.

    Obviously, you support the rights of some--as long as they fall inline with your politics--and **** on the constitutional rights of others.
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Here's the difference, with the groups you just talked about, they would be bringing in the hate, and the problems. Now with LGBT soldiers, the argument is that homophobic soldiers would have a problem with it, but in that scenario the homophobic soldiers are the problem, not the LGBT soldiers.
    There is no difference. What is constitutional for one, is constitutional for everyone else.

    You don't get to have it both ways. Sorry!
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Black Panthers are banned from the military, too. The Panthers, "lynched", people? How's about the Crips? They're banned, as well.
    No some Panther members decided to start killing police officers. And Crips? What about them? Drug dealers, pimps and cop killers. What exatcly are we arguing here? Why they're banned?
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The KKK is officially listed as a terrorist orginization? Since when?

    As far as I know, the KKK has a constitutional right to exist, along with the Nazis and the Skin Heads.

    Obviously, you support the rights of some--as long as they fall inline with your politics--and **** on the constitutional rights of others.
    Where's your Constitutional right to not serve with others you don't like? GO AHEAD AND FIND IT.

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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The same thing could be said for people who want to be openly gay. There's absolutely no need for a person's sexuality to be an issue in the military. It's totally irrelevant to that soldier's service.

    If a person's sexuality is a mission requirement, I would love for you to explain to me how so. I can't wait.

    Its not about mission accomplishment is about their individual lives and how they can live them. You don't need to have a wife to be a good soldier so why should the Army let ANYONE marry by your logic?

    And tell me where in the Constitution it allows for DADT, good luck.
    There's where you're wrong. Everything revolves around mission accomplishment, in the miltiary. Even Redress will tell you that.

    And tell me where in the Constitution it allows for DADT, good luck.

    Show us in the Constitution where service members can't be a member of any constitutionally protected group. best of luck!
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No some Panther members decided to start killing police officers. And Crips? What about them? Drug dealers, pimps and cop killers. What exatcly are we arguing here? Why they're banned?
    Is it illegal to be a member of the Crips, Bloods, of the Panthers? It isn't. Huh?
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Where's your Constitutional right to not serve with others you don't like? GO AHEAD AND FIND IT.
    That makes zero sense. You know that; don't you?
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    Re: Poll: Most US troops OK with gays in the military

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That makes zero sense. You know that; don't you?
    Like I said before, criminals and racists made a choice to join groups who promote hatred and violence.

    Homosexuals didn't. Kinda like how black people didn't choose to be black.
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