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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    You have wealth because you live in a society that makes it possible, protects your rights, and provides you with an environment conducive to opportunity. That costs, and some of that cost involves protecting other people. But if you don't believe you need this country, and don't want to pay in return what it asks of you, you are always welcome to go try your luck in a country that asks nothing and provides nothing - but I wouldn't recommend it. There tend to be a lot of truck-mounted machine guns and child-soldiers in countries like that.
    You don't even have to get moralistic or ideological... the costs to society are mitigated and everyone comes to greater returns and fewer losses thanks to the demon of socialism.

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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    No, I'm saying that many of the people demonized by conservatives are helpless. It makes me angry because I have a sense of right and wrong, not because I'm one of their victims.



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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    I hear that we're also on the verge of a breakthrough regarding political moderates and "independents". It's long been assumed that moderate views are varied and thus difficult to characterize, but this has gone largely untested - seems no one really gives a damn about the moderate/independent worldview. Drab and uninteresting, the topic was quickly given priority status for stimulus dollars. A research team was identified one pull of the "short straw" later.

    Initial findings suggest that the enormous range of moderate/independent beliefs result from a single factor - low iq. Unable to grasp simple concepts, most moderates forego politics altogether. The smarter ones (a very small subset) may form a rudimentary understanding of a topic and thus become single issue voters. The awe that stems from understanding a simple concept compels some to expand that concept into a rudimentary, naive worldview. Unable to grasp the inherent complexities of the world, these people become libertarians, or join political parties named after their favorite color.

    Although stupid and unable to debate the important topics of the day, the moderate/independent nonetheless enjoys participating in online discussions where they bounce from thread to thread "enlightening" the masses with the same, droll observation that yes, "BOTH parties do it." While those on the other side of the bell curve roll their eyes, the moderate/independent relishes in having made the exact same point for the 1000th time. Never quite convinced that the others are as impressed as he by the fiercely independent caracature invented to hide his flaws, he smiles to himself thinking, "if only they could see my tattoos!"
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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Its nice to see someone trolling the independents for a change. We were beginning to feel left out.

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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Actually we DO know something about liberals and conservatives. Hacks from both sides are unable to reason when confronted with facts that oppose their position. Literally, the part of the brain that is most associated with reasoning, turns "off", and their decision-making and conflict resolution ceases to be objective.

    Here is the study: Democrats and Republicans Both Adept at Ignoring Facts, Study Finds | LiveScience

    I'm sure you can identify folks from both sides of the aisle who might suffer from this affliction.
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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    I would say once any human being's emotions have been triggered, that their ability to be objective and to critically assess facts is greatly impaired, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum.

    As far as the genetics, I imagine that there are genes that influence conservatism as well.

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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny DooWop View Post
    Well I do have my BA in American History and I'm working on a Masters Degree in a related subject right now so don't doubt my knowledge. As for your question, I'll answer it with a question of my own, why do almost all poor whites in rural areas in the south vote for the Republican party, when Democratic financial policies and tax breaks clearly favor people who make under $65k a year, and Republican tax breaks and policies mostly favor people who make over $160k a year? You are right, the Civil War was a rich man's war. The rich land owners had all the poor whites fight for them by using the same fear mongering talking points that were used to get all of the conservatives hyped up about the Iraq War. Tell an uneducated southern boy that the North is trying to take over and change his way of life, he'll believe it, even if it is highly exaggerated. In actuality, the wealthy land owners didn't want their "peculiar institution" taken away by Northern Liberals.
    1) its the same reason why rich gays and Jews often vote for the dems-issues other than pure economic self interest. (such as the fact that poor whites in rural area are often very pro military, pro patriotism and pro gun)

    2) one can make the very credible argument that the dems pretend to care for the poor but their policies are actually designed to keep people dependent and in poverty and thus pawns of the dem party. SO your idiotic claim that the dems favor the poor ignores the fact that dem policies hurt those who might be poor but have a desire and a drive to escape poverty



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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    No, I'm saying that many of the people demonized by conservatives are helpless. It makes me angry because I have a sense of right and wrong, not because I'm one of their victims.



    You have wealth because you live in a society that makes it possible, protects your rights, and provides you with an environment conducive to opportunity. That costs, and some of that cost involves protecting other people. But if you don't believe you need this country, and don't want to pay in return what it asks of you, you are always welcome to go try your luck in a country that asks nothing and provides nothing - but I wouldn't recommend it. There tend to be a lot of truck-mounted machine guns and child-soldiers in countries like that.
    that is as stupid as saying I got top grades because my professors awarded A grades to top students.



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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You don't even have to get moralistic or ideological... the costs to society are mitigated and everyone comes to greater returns and fewer losses thanks to the demon of socialism.
    the demon of socialism has filled the mass graveyards of the world with millions of innocents over the last 100 years



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    Re: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the demon of socialism has filled the mass graveyards of the world with millions of innocents over the last 100 years
    I suppose that's one way to mitigate costs.

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