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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    In my experience, LE rarely goes after the dangerous types. Instead they have to set up special task forces. Because most LEO's are cowards who would rather go after dangerous speeders because they bring in more revenue then a robber/murderer who will not be able to afford being bailed out. So yeah LEO's are typically not going after scumbags unless you believe someone going 60mph in a 40mph road is a dangerous criminal. Then I would ask you to get your head examined.
    I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences with law enforcement. It happens. Yes, there are some bad cops. They are the ones people remember and talk about.

    Are there problems with they way LE is tasked and deployed in present-day America? I'd say yes. For one thing I think far too much time is wasted worrying about trivia like marijuana possession. For another I think police powers have been increased far too much in the name of the War on Some Drugs.

    However, your characterization of cops as cowards is grossly inaccurate. I could fill pages and pages with anecdotes about officers I worked with doing courageous things. Out of a couple hundred cops I've known personally, I've only known one who was a coward, and two or three who were definitely bullies.

    Cops are people, and like any other group of people there are the good, the mediocre, and the suck. In my experience there's more good than mediocre, and the truly unfit are not so common as you imply.

    If you have a problem with the laws officers enforce, talk to your politicians. If you have a problem with the way officers engage in stops and searches, talk to a judge (they set most of the parameters cops work with in that regard).

    You obviously have a strong resentment against authority and those who enforce the law. This is not unusual... Americans more than most other people don't like being told what to do, or questioned or detained. That's fine too... we should always stand up for our rights. For example, I NEVER consent to a search... but I decline politely. I've been out of the LE biz for a dozen years, and yeah I've been stopped and questioned several times about one thing or another. Most of my LE encounters were not bad experiences; a lot of times the attitude you encounter in the cop will be a mirror of the attitude you exhibit towards them in the first moments of the stop.


    Your assertions that the majority of cops are bullies and cowards is based on second- and third-hand heresay and a few unpleasant traffic stops or sensationalized news stories. My assertions are based on having done it for several years, having known hundreds of LEO's and dealt with many both as an LE and as a private citizen. I'll let the readers decide who they think is more credible.

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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Lets see, Just this week, starting on Sunday....

    Sergeant Timothy Prunty | Shreveport Police Department, Louisiana
    Police Officer Christopher A. Wilson | San Diego Police Department, California

    Thats not counting the ones killed in crashes while on duty this week.

    Thats also not counting the guy shot and killed in Puerto Rico (which might as well be a half a U.S. State) on Tuesday.
    Lieutenant Jose A. Cordova-Montañez | Puerto Rico Police Department, Puerto Rico

    Out of the 136 line of duty deaths so far this year

    2 were from Assaults
    47 from Gunfire
    4 were killed from automobile crashes that occurred during the pursuit of fleeing suspects
    12 were killed by vehicular assaults, in that a person willfully struck the police officer (not to be confused with accidentally being struck by a vehicle).

    And this one particularly pisses me off
    Trooper Marc Castellano | New Jersey State Police, New Jersey
    Trooper died because some stupid bitch was too cowardly to just take responsibility for her actions and had to lie about a person with a gun making her do what she did, which created a search of a non-existent gunman, where this officer was accidentally hit by a car during a search for an imaginary person. All because a dumb bitch couldn't just say, "I did it!"
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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Nice to see that drug prohibition is working exactly as intended: crime and violence are down, and people are doing fewer drugs than when we first enacted these policies. A resounding success on all fronts!

    Don't pay any attention to stories like these. The cartels kill anyone that stands in their way because drugs are bad, not because the world has an endless supply of evil mother-****ers willing to kill for the insanely huge profits created by our prohibition policies.

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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    Nice to see that drug prohibition is working exactly as intended: crime and violence are down, and people are doing fewer drugs than when we first enacted these policies. A resounding success on all fronts!

    Don't pay any attention to stories like these. The cartels kill anyone that stands in their way because drugs are bad, not because the world has an endless supply of evil mother-****ers willing to kill for the insanely huge profits created by our prohibition policies.
    If it wasn't drugs then it would be something else.
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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Goof Noodle View Post
    You obviously don't know how the Supreme Court ruled on this subject. Also, I have yet to find a dangerous area in Omaha. Of course I am also the white guy that gets pulled over and asked what I am doing in this part of town at 4 in the morning.
    I've worked with your gang cops in Omaha. I doubt that your perceptions on this issue are based on anything except dumb luck and stupid bravado.

    But, just to test your theory, I'd like you to start spending more time, late at night, in the neighborhoods around the projects at 40th and Maple. Report back to us in a few weeks if you haven't been robbed/shot.

    Is Omaha the worst place in the U.S.? Nope. But Omaha has had rough areas and gang problems for a long, damn time.
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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I've worked with your gang cops in Omaha. I doubt that your perceptions on this issue are based on anything except dumb luck and stupid bravado.

    But, just to test your theory, I'd like you to start spending more time, late at night, in the neighborhoods around the projects at 40th and Maple. Report back to us in a few weeks if you haven't been robbed/shot.
    There are dangeous pocket area's all over the place. Tree streets (seemingly) tend to attract the unseemly types for some reason. I was on call to do work out in Toledo Ohio, outside type stuff last year. I was in training and knew jack about Toledo but was told by the supervisors to be on guard on the NorthEastern part of town in the tree streets --- Cherry, Locust, Elm and Walnut - and that they had a code if things were getting hairy in the area, to call into dispatch and claim my GPS batteries were dead. That was code for that part of town saying you weren't going to be making any repairs on that ticket in that area that day. Low and behold, I was told this in New Haven CT at the training facility and that day, down the street there was a drive by shooting and 2 died 1 injured about 100 yards from where I was. I didn't think the outskirts of Yale University were that dangerous, but they are and apparently have been for a while.
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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm sure it's a different story, when you know that the government is probably rootin' for the cartels.
    The government is not rooting for the cartels.

    They just haven't found anything that works against them yet.

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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't even think that's the real problem. It's easy to understand a cop not wanting to stick his neck out, if he's 99% sure that when the fit hits the shan that there won't be any backup. And let's say he does win a gun fight, kills a couple bad guys, takes a few more into custody. He still can't expect any support from the government.
    The problem is that the cops, especially in small towns, are not trained very well nor are they paid a decent living.

    Why would they out their whole families life in danger for a job?

    Would any of you?

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    Re: Every cop in town quits after Mexico attack Gunmen fired more than 1,000 bullets

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Well chances are that you are older. So they treat you better. When I was in the car with my mom, the officer who pulled her over was nice and respectful, professional basically. But when I have gotten pulled over they normally talk in a very aggressive belittling manner. They try to get me to admit guilt and when that does not work they start to raise their voices. Honestly I feel that their pusuit of fighting crime should be put elsewhere.
    When a cop pulls you over hand them your license and registration, oh yes and your insurance.

    You don't talk to cops.

    Let him do what he wants and it will be handled in the courts and if he did anything wrong go file a complaint with IA.

    If you don't give him ammunition, he has nothing to fight with.

    You do not fight with officers of the law, even though they think they are, they are not the last word on anything.

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