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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The absence of one thing does not prove the other. It is a logical fallacy. Thanks for playing.


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    Ya got something concrete, put it out there for all to see. Otherwise it's nothing but shenanigans.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    So if this law would pass it would keep U.S. citizens who cannot provide identification out of the voting booth...If you have a voting card then that's all you should need. You need to provide a SSN and valid address when you register, I think that is enough.
    A voter should have to produce a photo ID. That isn't asking much. Anyone that doesn't have a picture ID, probably isn't eligible to vote.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    When you hear the same old lame shrills year after year and nothing comes of it but 'allegations', it diminishes your credibility considerbly, except of course in the minds of the 'believers'.

    Ya got something concrete, put it out there for all to see. Otherwise it's nothing but shenanigans.
    The reports have been out there. Heck even in this very forum we have discussed how a Nevada register of voters for ACORN is under indictment for registration fraud, yet still allowed to continue this cycle for the same organization under a different name.

    Look, irregularities are at an all time high this early in the count, and I'd be willing to bet a weeks salary that it isn't happening with nearly the frequency on the Repub side as it is with the demo's right now. Face it, when demo's can't win fair and square, they cheat. See Al Franken.


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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ahh voter fraud. Favorite Republican boogeyman.
    How many convictions of voter fraud came from the last few elections?

    edit: and not voter registration fraud.
    So ACORN and registration is not voter fraud?

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Does Texas require that you show ID to vote?
    No, it's not required.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The reports have been out there. Heck even in this very forum we have discussed how a Nevada register of voters for ACORN is under indictment for registration fraud, yet still allowed to continue this cycle for the same organization under a different name.

    Look, irregularities are at an all time high this early in the count, and I'd be willing to bet a weeks salary that it isn't happening with nearly the frequency on the Repub side as it is with the demo's right now. Face it, when demo's can't win fair and square, they cheat. See Al Franken.


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    Registration is where fraud takes place and needs to be cleaned up. You can't cheat at the polls without cheating the registration system first.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    No, it's not required.
    Registration is where fraud takes place and needs to be cleaned up.
    I do not know about your state but in my state voter registrations cards are printed on card stock and does not have a photo. And a lot of the polling places do not even ask to see your voter registration card.

    You can't cheat at the polls without cheating the registration system first.
    Even if it was required that you show up in person to the state election board with your driver's license/ID, SS card, and birth certificate proof of address and the people there actually verified if the info is real in order to get a voter ID/registration card. It would be pointless as long as those voter registration cards are just printed card stock or paper and the polling places do not ask for ID or voter registration cards or verify that they are real.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Maybe I missed it but in NY they have us present our drivers license and sign a book right before we vote. I dont see the hooplah of showing ID to vote.
    That issue was not affected. From the article:

    The ruling left in place a requirement that voters provide proof of identity when casting ballots.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    I gave them my card and they typed in my name. DH gave them his drivers license and they swiped it in a machine. His way was faster.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not know about your state but in my state voter registrations cards are printed on card stock and does not have a photo. And a lot of the polling places do not even ask to see your voter registration card.



    Even if it was required that you show up in person to the state election board with your driver's license/ID, SS card, and birth certificate proof of address and the people there actually verified if the info is real in order to get a voter ID/registration card. It would be pointless as long as those voter registration cards are just printed card stock or paper and the polling places do not ask for ID or voter registration cards or verify that they are real.
    I'm voting after work. I have my up to date voter registration card in my pocket. Frank Phillips is my elections administrator. It's his job to see that there's only one of me, I'm alive, and old enough to vote.

    My wife can't find her card this time. She'll probably show her driver's license, but could just state her name.

    If you are in the registered voter book and sign the sticker, you're good to go. It's the signature that will get you into trouble if you're not that person.

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