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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Notice the Judge that helped do this?

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    Appeals Court Judge Sandra S. Ikuta's opinion was joined by retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who heard the case as a temporary appeals court judge.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Maybe I missed it but in NY they have us present our drivers license and sign a book right before we vote. I dont see the hooplah of showing ID to vote.
    I believe that what you are seeing while you're in line is people showing their driver's licenses voluntarily, or they think they are supposed to show ID. I see the people in front of me in Texas showing ID when they sign the voter roles.

    Next time, don't offer to show your ID. No one will ask you to see it because that is against the law. I know. I don't show mine.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Lighten up Sandy Baby.

    This is actually probably the legally correct judgement, but that doesn't mean the federal law isn't ridiculous and idiotic.

    What Arizona should do is pass a law stating that after voting they will run all the names of voters through a data base to determine if they are of legal status. Any names that don't jive will be tracked down and asked to show legal status. If they can not, well...you get perjury charges.

    This wouldn't be denying people the ability to vote and thus wouldn't violate that portion of constitutional law.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I believe that what you are seeing while you're in line is people showing their driver's licenses voluntarily, or they think they are supposed to show ID. I see the people in front of me in Texas showing ID when they sign the voter roles.

    Next time, don't offer to show your ID. No one will ask you to see it because that is against the law. I know. I don't show mine.
    I thought you had to be a citizen to vote? How is showing proof illegal. It seem the democrats are opening the door for voter fraud

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What Arizona should do is pass a law stating that after voting they will run all the names of voters through a data base to determine if they are of legal status. Any names that don't jive will be tracked down and asked to show legal status. If they can not, well...you get perjury charges.
    And how do you propose that the states track and find every person that doesn't "jive" with the database?

    Do such votes still count until the perjury trial is finished?

    And what do you do with names that have no known address or have unknown status?
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I thought you had to be a citizen to vote? How is showing proof illegal. It seem the democrats are opening the door for voter fraud
    If you registered to vote, your name will be in the voter's role. After you sign the sticker (texas anyway), it's placed next to your name in the role. You can't cheat.

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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    I usually show my drivers licence (read: picture ID) each time I go to vote.

    It may be that it is illegal to DEMAND I show it, and now that I think back, they've always asked.

    I see no reason NOT to show them my ID...

    And, in fact, I would far prefer that picture ID be a federal requirement if you wanted to vote.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    If you registered to vote, your name will be in the voter's role. After you sign the sticker (texas anyway), it's placed next to your name in the role. You can't cheat.
    Does Texas require that you show ID to vote?
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    So if this law would pass it would keep U.S. citizens who cannot provide identification out of the voting booth...If you have a voting card then that's all you should need. You need to provide a SSN and valid address when you register, I think that is enough.
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    Re: Arizona Law Requiring Voters Prove Citizenship Is Struck Down

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    So if this law would pass it would keep U.S. citizens who cannot provide identification out of the voting booth.

    Other than a long term prison inmatse what citizens do not have a ID or drivers license? You need a ID to practically do everything especially in the age of ID fraud.

    ..If you have a voting card then that's all you should need. You need to provide a SSN and valid address when you register, I think that is enough.
    If someone goes to the bank to cash a check will the tellers just accept a voter registration card? Hell no they wouldn't because anyone with a computer can make their own registration card. Anyone can fill out a voter registration form and send it by mail. That doesn't do squat to fight voter fraud. How does something printed on card stock with no photo that you can fill out and mail prove who you say you are?
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