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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and so, i posted a civil traffic court schedule and you deny that traffic court is civil. you're pretty damend funny.......and completely wrong.
    Really.
    Expalin this:

    Criminal Traffic Violations
    If the offense on your citation/ticket is listed as a criminal violation, you must appear at the Justice Court listed on your ticket at the date and time specified....
    Justice Courts - Criminal Traffic Violations
    If you have to pleae guilty ot innocent - like for a speeding ticket, it is a CRIMINAL issue.
    As such, the fines imposed are CRIMINAL, and then only after a trial.

    So, I will ask, and you will avoid, again:
    What about the people that have cost the state nothing?
    On what basis can you fine them?

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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Really.
    Expalin this:


    Justice Courts - Criminal Traffic Violations
    If you have to pleae guilty ot innocent - like for a speeding ticket, it is a CRIMINAL issue.
    As such, the fines imposed are CRIMINAL, and then only after a trial.

    So, I will ask, and you will avoid, again:
    What about the people that have cost the state nothing?
    On what basis can you fine them?
    not so....you can get a ticket, pay a fine and never go to court. admit it.
    Last edited by liblady; 10-25-10 at 05:38 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You were finished before you started... and failed half way through.

    WTF does the way the health care law itself works, have to do with taxes that will be assessed because of it?

    You also conveniently ignore the fact that the health care law is not the ONLY source of new taxes under this administration. You ignored...

    SCHIP*
    Public*Law*111‐3*
    Tobacco tax increase and expanded enforcement authority* (new tax, affects people making less than $250K)

    “Stimulus”*
    Public Law 111‐5
    Repeal guidance allowing certain taxpayers to claim losses of an acquired corporation

    UI Benefits, NOL
    Relief & Homebuyer Credit
    Public Law 111‐92
    Federal Unemployment surtaxes extended through June 2011 *
    Delay of rules to reduce the double taxation of worldwide American employers until 2018 (worldwide interest allocation)*

    HIRE Act
    Public Law 111‐147
    Delay of rules to reduce the double taxation of worldwide American employers until 2021 (worldwide interest allocation)*
    the point of how heatlhcare works is to show YOU that the excise tax most likely won't affect people making under 250k.

    paying a tax on cigarettes is optional, you don't have to buy them, and you don't have to tan. and the rest of what you posted has to do with corporations, not individuals. talk about fail.
    Last edited by liblady; 10-25-10 at 05:45 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    You were finished before you started... and failed half way through.

    WTF does the way the health care law itself works, have to do with taxes that will be assessed because of it?

    You also conveniently ignore the fact that the health care law is not the ONLY source of new taxes under this administration. You ignored...

    SCHIP*
    Public*Law*111‐3*
    Tobacco tax increase and expanded enforcement authority* (new tax, affects people making less than $250K)

    “Stimulus”*
    Public Law 111‐5
    Repeal guidance allowing certain taxpayers to claim losses of an acquired corporation

    UI Benefits, NOL
    Relief & Homebuyer Credit
    Public Law 111‐92
    Federal Unemployment surtaxes extended through June 2011 *
    Delay of rules to reduce the double taxation of worldwide American employers until 2018 (worldwide interest allocation)*

    HIRE Act
    Public Law 111‐147
    Delay of rules to reduce the double taxation of worldwide American employers until 2021 (worldwide interest allocation)*
    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    paying a tax on cigarettes is optional, you don't have to buy them, and you don't have to tan. and the rest of what you posted has to do with corporations, not individuals. talk about fail.
    I thought you were done with me?

    Paying the tax is NOT optional. If you smoke, you MUST pay the tax. If you tan, you MUST pay the tax.

    Individuals cannot own corproations in your country? interseting concept.

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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I thought you were done with me?

    Paying the tax is NOT optional. If you smoke, you MUST pay the tax. If you tan, you MUST pay the tax.

    Individuals cannot own corproations in your country? interseting concept.
    um...you don't have to smoke. whatever happened to personal responsibility? and of course individuals can own corporations, but the corporation pays taxes, not the individual. another fail.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the point of how heatlhcare works is to show YOU that the excise tax most likely won't affect people making under 250k.
    How the healthcare system itself works has ZERO to do with which taxes it creates will affect who.

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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um...you don't have to smoke. whatever happened to personal responsibility? and of course individuals can own corporations, but the corporation pays taxes, not the individual. another fail.
    Boy, there is just no end to the koolaide dringking here, huh.

    The end result is that under Obama, taxes havebeen raised. He promised they would not be. He did not qualify it, stating that 'if you don't tan, don't smoke', etc.

    HE

    LIED.
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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    um...you don't have to smoke. whatever happened to personal responsibility? and of course individuals can own corporations, but the corporation pays taxes, not the individual. another fail.
    Depends on the type of corporation.
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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    At stake, in addition to the mortgage-interest deductions, are child tax credits and the ability of employees to pay their portion of their health-insurance tab with pretax dollars. Commission officials are expected to look at preserving these breaks but at a lower level, according to people familiar with the matter
    I hope they get rid (or at least reduce) the mortgage interest deductions. They distort the market by favoring homeowners over renters, when there is no logical economic reason for the government to incentivize one over the other. As long as people have a roof over their head, I don't see why the government should care whether they own or rent. This kind of **** is partially responsible for the rampant housing speculation that caused the last recession.

    As for child tax credits...I don't really have a problem with them. I'd rather that we open up to more immigration instead of encouraging people to spawn, but one way or another, we do need to add to our population lest we fall into the demographic trap that Europe and East Asia are struggling with.

    I completely agree that health insurance should remain tax deductible.
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    Re: Key Tax Breaks at Risk as Panel Looks at Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not so....you can get a ticket, pay a fine and never go to court. admit it.
    Ever pay a speeding ticket? When you send it in you sign a line that says, in some way shape of form, that you are pleading guilty and waiving your right to trial. Its a -criminal- process and your are assessed a -criminal- fine.

    Now, back to the question you keep dodging:
    What about the people that have cost the state nothing?
    On what basis can you fine them?

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