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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    IMO, non citizens should not be allowed to vote at any level (local/county,state,federal). The US belongs to its citizens. If a non citizen wants to live here, invest here, then they need to follow our laws.
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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Aliens should not be allowed to vote in elections, local or not. I am deeply disturbed by this.

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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So if citizens decide to give their non-citizen legal resident tax-paying neighbors the right to vote in local elections, that's something to be afraid of?

    Really?

    There are other countries that permit that sort of thing in certain localities, and the sky hasn't fallen there.
    Did the citizens make that decision, or did the bone head politicos make that decision?
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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    A legal resident alien pays taxes, have their kids go to local school etc, if they have a vote in the school board over who the principal is or whether to build new stadium lights or a theater stage, that's fine. Its as local as an issue can be and if they pay taxes its also their money as well as their kids. If they wanted to vote for representatives at state, local, or Federal level I'd have a problem, or if they wanted to run for that office there'd be a problem.

    Also I fail to see how giving these people a vote will led to a civil war, I wasn't aware that being able to vote was required to be able to pick up a gun and shoot someone. The two seem unrelated to me, but I'm just the rational one.

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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    A legal resident alien pays taxes, have their kids go to local school etc, if they have a vote in the school board over who the principal is or whether to build new stadium lights or a theater stage, that's fine. Its as local as an issue can be and if they pay taxes its also their money as well as their kids. If they wanted to vote for representatives at state, local, or Federal level I'd have a problem, or if they wanted to run for that office there'd be a problem.

    Also I fail to see how giving these people a vote will led to a civil war, I wasn't aware that being able to vote was required to be able to pick up a gun and shoot someone. The two seem unrelated to me, but I'm just the rational one.
    If they want a say in the school system, then they can go home and vote there.
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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they want a say in the school system, then they can go home and vote there.
    So why are you so worthy of a vote while they aren't?
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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If they want a say in the school system, then they can go home and vote there.
    Ok moron consider this. I'm an senior executive of General Motors, I normally live and work in India however I agree to move to the US for 2 years to help implement a more efficient method for something or other. I bring my family along, entirely legally, I purchase a home, pay the same taxes as everyone else, contribute the community like any other member. I am a legal resident alien, yet I won't have a say in my kid's school's meetings because I'm not a citizen?

    Even though I pay the same taxes, own a home, send my kid to the same school, support local businesses etc, I cannot vote on want kind of uniforms the school's football team wears? Or whether or not my own tax dollars should be used to re-plant the grass or build a new auditorium?

    Is there is an issue smaller or more meaningless than this one?

    How about this, what if I move to a community OF resident aliens, where the large majority of residents in that community are legal aliens? Are you saying that the minority, lets even say its a small minority, should control all off our tax dollars? How is that right? That a parent cannot have a say in their own child's education?

    I'm assuming if it was up to you, you'd have the Federal government come in and make a law which stops all of this nationwide?

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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Personally, I don't really think is a good idea to let non-citizens vote. While I would support making it easier to become a citizen, American elections should be decided by Americans. That said, this an issue that should be left to local governments and I support their right to make the choice even if I disagree with it.

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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So why are you so worthy of a vote while they aren't?
    Because I'm a citizen here. That's why. Do I get to vote in their country? No, I don't. That's how things work in the real world, when one moves out of one's parent's home.
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    Re: States Weigh Letting Noncitizens Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ok moron consider this. I'm an senior executive of General Motors, I normally live and work in India however I agree to move to the US for 2 years to help implement a more efficient method for something or other. I bring my family along, entirely legally, I purchase a home, pay the same taxes as everyone else, contribute the community like any other member. I am a legal resident alien, yet I won't have a say in my kid's school's meetings because I'm not a citizen?

    Even though I pay the same taxes, own a home, send my kid to the same school, support local businesses etc, I cannot vote on want kind of uniforms the school's football team wears? Or whether or not my own tax dollars should be used to re-plant the grass or build a new auditorium?

    Is there is an issue smaller or more meaningless than this one?

    How about this, what if I move to a community OF resident aliens, where the large majority of residents in that community are legal aliens? Are you saying that the minority, lets even say its a small minority, should control all off our tax dollars? How is that right? That a parent cannot have a say in their own child's education?

    I'm assuming if it was up to you, you'd have the Federal government come in and make a law which stops all of this nationwide?
    You call me a moron and your next sentence reads:

    I'm an senior executive of General Motors, I normally live and work in India however I agree to move to the US for 2 years to help implement a more efficient method for something or other.
    That's funny!!!

    To answer your basic question: when you become an American citizen, you can vote all you want, as long as you're properly registered.
    Last edited by apdst; 10-24-10 at 09:26 PM.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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