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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Boo I didn't realize you were ignorant of the past. I wasn't aware you didn't realize that Hussein violated the 91 cease fire on numerous occasions.


    see I can play your dumb game as well. It's so transparent bro, and it's lame.
    Fully aware. And that cease fire was with the UN, not the US alone. So, only the UN had the authority to enforce that. I don't need a link to the 91, because I know this to be true. And you shouldn't need a link to it being with the UN as you shold know this to be true. But I can link both.

    Now, you can play games, or you can discuss this honestly.

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Repeat for what I've claimed. Do you think Iraq attacked us? Do you think the slam dunk comment wasn't about selling the war? Be specific. right now, you're just being silly because you have to know better at some level.



    Like i said, you are not worth my time.


    I've listed the 6 reasons we went to war, officially, the fact you choose to remain ignorant means, this conversation has ran its course.
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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Like i said, you are not worth my time.


    I've listed the 6 reasons we went to war, officially, the fact you choose to remain ignorant means, this conversation has ran its course.
    Here's the problem. Just because they are on a list doesn't make them valid. Don't you understand this? We can say anything, put anything on a list, but doing so isn't equal to them being honest, valid or a deserving reason or rationale. Just putting them out there doesn't mean whoever you're talkign to should shut up and move along. You have to explain how they matter, why they are valid, and deal with evidence to the contrary. between the two of us, I'm the only willing to move foward.

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Here's the problem. Just because they are on a list doesn't make them valid. Don't you understand this? We can say anything, put anything on a list, but doing so isn't equal to them being honest, valid or a deserving reason or rationale. Just putting them out there doesn't mean whoever you're talkign to should shut up and move along. You have to explain how they matter, why they are valid, and deal with evidence to the contrary. between the two of us, I'm the only willing to move foward.


    the onus is on you to support your claims, you haven't been able to "move foward" since bush first got elected. Later bro,.
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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    the onus is on you to support your claims, you haven't been able to "move foward" since bush first got elected. Later bro,.
    Again, what do think hasn't been supported?

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Here's the problem. Just because they are on a list doesn't make them valid. Don't you understand this? We can say anything, put anything on a list, but doing so isn't equal to them being honest, valid or a deserving reason or rationale. Just putting them out there doesn't mean whoever you're talkign to should shut up and move along. You have to explain how they matter, why they are valid, and deal with evidence to the contrary. between the two of us, I'm the only willing to move foward.
    Perhaps this will help.

    http://www.c-span.org/Content/PDF/hjres114.pdf

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No that doesn't help. None of that is in dispute. Having them so listed doesn't make them valid. As the cease fire was a UN concern and not soley a US concern, they play no role in a US decision to invade. As we were not being attacked, as Saddam was not working with al Qaeda, as there were no stockpiles of wmds, that document is merely a symptom of the problem. No one argues this document wasn't produced. The argument is next to none of it held up or actually justified an invasion.

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No that doesn't help. None of that is in dispute. Having them so listed doesn't make them valid. As the cease fire was a UN concern and not soley a US concern, they play no role in a US decision to invade. As we were not being attacked, as Saddam was not working with al Qaeda, as there were no stockpiles of wmds, that document is merely a symptom of the problem. No one argues this document wasn't produced. The argument is next to none of it held up or actually justified an invasion.
    You are really off base here in trying to decide what is valid, and you appear to have no knowledge of Al Qaeda either. If you choose not to believe then that is your alternative, but it's impossible to debate your personal, and invalid, beliefs.

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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are really off base here in trying to decide what is valid, and you appear to have no knowledge of Al Qaeda either. If you choose not to believe then that is your alternative, but it's impossible to debate your personal, and invalid, beliefs.


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    Re: U.S. ignored reports of Iraqi abuse: documents

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are really off base here in trying to decide what is valid, and you appear to have no knowledge of Al Qaeda either. If you choose not to believe then that is your alternative, but it's impossible to debate your personal, and invalid, beliefs.
    Yes, I know. You disagree, so I'm off base. Understood. But the fact remains, Saddam was not working with al Qeada. He simply wasn't. He was not attacking us, was not behind 9/11 and wasn't a threat to us. Only the UN could enforce their ceasefire. We used intel inapproropriately. I'm sorry some are too willing to accept anything, but you have presented nothing that would convince me otherwise. You can address these points, or you can use rev's tactic of being insulting. The choice is yours.

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