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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes, I did, because I felt that your portrayal of the "pacifist screechers" was completely one-sided. Just because I feel that the debate over numbers is relatively unimportant doesn't mean I'm not going to call someone out on their bull**** when they put forward a ridiculous and one-sided assertion. For the exact same reason that I would, for example, comment on how it's stupid for someone to say that Stalin is responsible for 100 million deaths.
    If "one-sidedness" were really your concern, you would have said so from the beginning. But alas, you did not. You chose instead to challenge my use of "pacifist screecher groups."

    Besides, if you actually don't care how many died, it wouldn't concern you at all. Not to mention that my point didn't have anything to do with "your views" as you present them, so nothing I said warranted commented from you on those grounds.

    Nor did the point I was making necessitate that I impugn pro-war groups.

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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ummmm . . . no, they're not.
    Once they are released, they will be.

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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    That's a pretty stupid analogy. If someone robbed me, it is the robber's fault. When they get caught they go to jail because they shouldn't have robbed me in the first place.

    The Iraq war turned into a regime change operation. And over a hundred thousand Iraqis have lost their lives while millions have seen their lives turned upside down. Why do people keep defending this war?
    Speaking of "stupid analogies," where did I "defend" the war?

    The responsibility for the people that the insurgents killed lies with the insurgents. No righteous indignance on your part will change that.
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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Once they are released, they will be.
    Funny, you said they are NOW. (Besides, you said public domain, when what you really mean is public RECORD. Not the same thing.)
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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Once they are released, they will be.
    You can find a copy of Inception on any torrent site, but that doesn't mean it's in the public domain.
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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You can find a copy of Inception on any torrent site, but that doesn't mean it's in the public domain.
    So is the U.S. government going to go and shut down any news agency that posts details?

    Too bad. Suck it up. The truth is out.

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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    So is the U.S. government going to go and shut down any news agency that posts details?
    I'm not sure how you got this from my post.

    Too bad. Suck it up. The truth is out.
    So because someone succeeded in breaking the law once, the government shouldn't make efforts to prevent people from breaking the law in the future or to punish those who broke the law in the past?
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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So because someone succeeded in breaking the law once, the government shouldn't make efforts to prevent people from breaking the law in the future or to punish those who broke the law in the past?
    I understand why the U.S. would want to move quickly to cover this up, but that doesn't mean I support it.

    This is about more than revealing strategic information. It is about letting the public know exactly what is going on in the war. The early details seem to indicate that we are all being lied to. If our officials can't be honest about their intentions, then they do not deserve to hold office.

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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    I'm sure if someone published Orion's private papers showing things he doesn't particularly want people to know, his reaction would be "well, I guess I have to suck it up."
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    Re: Wikileaks: Secret Iraq War Death Toll Set at 285,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The early details seem to indicate that we are all being lied to.
    About what?
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