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Republican congressional candidate says violent overthrow of government is 'on the ta

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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
 
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SheWolf said:
Conservatives seem to be the most vocal about taking away civil rights right now. I am talking mostly about ones like Rand Paul arguing against the Civil Rights Act and for segregation today. Some other conservatives even support removing or changing the 14th amendment.
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None of that is as you are presenting it here.
 
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apdst said:
Our current government is whittling away at our rights everyday. So, that is debatable.
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Teh Internets said:
Name five of your rights that have been taken away in the last year, or own up to your overstatement.
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Looks like you're the one who is overstating something.
 
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megaprogman said:
Republican congressional candidate says violent overthrow of government is 'on the table' | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Texas Regional News



Seriously? Are these the kinds of people we want in government? This is insane.
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In other words, if we dont win in 10 days then we will take power by the gun... nice to know how little the US right thinks of democracy these days.
 
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PeteEU said:
In other words, if we dont win in 10 days then we will take power by the gun... nice to know how little the US right thinks of democracy these days.
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Of course, YOU would characterize it in such a way.
 
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My entire answer to this thread, can be summed up by this physical action... HIT IT PETER!!!!!!!

 
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You know what it is about this thread that makes me laugh the hardest?

If a Republican says something like this, it's because the government's been whittling away our rights, or because we're being fooled into voting for the most personally profitable choice instead of the most practical choice, or because some old dead guys said it was a good idea.

If a Democrat had said this, there would've been references to the President's middle name, or the alleged ambiguity of his citizenship, or about how Democrats secretly want to tear down the United States, or that liberals are terrorists and not just terrorist sympathizers.

:lol:
 
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Actually those who want to overthrow the government of the United States, as in other democracies, are militant Muslims. Up to 80% of the fastest growing religion want Sharia law introduced, which means the abandonment of the US Constitution.

If it ever comes to that, in the United States anyway, then there might well be a violent revolution. This candidate is not necessarily wrong.
 
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Grant said:
Actually those who want to overthrow the government of the United States, as in other democracies, are militant Muslims. Up to 80% of the fastest growing religion want Sharia law introduced, which means the abandonment of the US Constitution.

If it ever comes to that, in the United States anyway, then there might well be a violent revolution. This candidate is not necessarily wrong.
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Have to bring that into it.

For no other purpose then to satisfy your own bigotry.
 
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Grant said:
Actually those who want to overthrow the government of the United States, as in other democracies, are militant Muslims.
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You mean that was a Muslim politician making that statement? How about the various and sundry citizen's militia groups scattered around the country, are those Muslim as well?

Grant said:
Up to 80% of the fastest growing religion want Sharia law introduced
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I would like to see reputable proof, please, that 80% of Muslims in America want Sharia law to be introduced. I would also like to know what version of Sharia they want, and how they want it to be introduced (for example, as contract law or with a Sharia judge as a mutually agreed-upon arbiter).

Grant said:
This candidate is not necessarily wrong.
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I'd rate his accuracy somewhere as somewhere in the neighborhood of the proof you're gonna have to share with the rest of the class. :lol:
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Have to bring that into it.

For no other purpose then to satisfy your own bigotry.
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The bigot sees everything through the distortion of their bigotry. It's not a conscious act, sadly, or we could simply ask them to stop.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
because some old dead guys said it was a good idea.
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Wouldn't life suck if we didn't have the wisdom of the "old dead guys who said it was a good idea?" Because of old dead guys, I'm relaxing in a heated home typing away on a wireless computer, conveying ideas to people hundreds of miles away - rather than sitting in filth around a fire, hoping not to get eaten by some wild beast.

Not all ideas are good ideas, but I for one am thankful to have so many to consider. Whether the idea came from some "old dead guy" or some shmuck in Washington really doesn't matter so much as the idea itself.
 
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That's the stupidest ****ing thing.
Our current country and government was formed relatively peacefully - we have been endowed with all means necessary to CHANGE things without having to resort to some sort of bloody coup.

What - things don't go our comfort-zone way for a while so then it calls for bloodshed?

So, basically - this guy believes that a Republic or a Democracy just doesn't work - and that the people can't possibly decide, majoritively, that our country needs to go in a new direction? What the hell WOULD work for him, personally, then - A freaking oligarchy? A Prussian style aristocracy?
Bull**** - he can keep that crap.

**** *him*
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Have to bring that into it.

For no other purpose then to satisfy your own bigotry.
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Bigotry against what, Jetboogieman?
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
You mean that was a Muslim politician making that statement? How about the various and sundry citizen's militia groups scattered around the country, are those Muslim as well?
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No, he wasn't a Muslim. Had you read the article you would have seen that. How about the others? What about them?
I would like to see reputable proof, please, that 80% of Muslims in America want Sharia law to be introduced.
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I said "up to", which means that's the highest figure. In some areas it is much lower. Forty per cent in the UK for example. The 80% figure was from a study taken in Dearborn Michigan.
I would also like to know what version of Sharia they want, and how they want it to be introduced (for example, as contract law or with a Sharia judge as a mutually agreed-upon arbiter).
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To get into the specifics of what they want you'll have to check out Muslim web sites which support Sharia Law, or speak to Muslims who support Sharia in the Democracies.
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Jetboogieman said:
Muslims

10.
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What evidence do you have that I'm bigotted against Muslims?

I certainly am not.

However there are some Muslims, some!, who are bigoted against me. As well there are SOME Muslims who want to overthrow governments through violence, and the overthrow of governments through violence is the subject of this thread.
 
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Grant said:
What evidence do you have that I'm bigotted against Muslims?

I certainly am not.

However there are some Muslims, some!, who are bigoted against me. As well there are SOME Muslims who want to overthrow governments through violence, and the overthrow of governments through violence is the subject of this thread.
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Almost every single post you have ever made on this website. You know, little things like that.

But I will say no more, it has nothing to do with the topic.
 
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Grant said:
No, he wasn't a Muslim. Had you read the article you would have seen that. How about the others? What about them?
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So then what does Sharia law have to do with the subject of this thread?

Grant said:
I said "up to", which means that's the highest figure. In some areas it is much lower. Forty per cent in the UK for example. The 80% figure was from a study taken in Dearborn Michigan.
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In other words you have no such statistic, and you threw out a meaningless (i.e. "up to") number for the purpose of muddying the waters.

Personally, I think "up to" 100% of all people who thusly attack Islam want to mass-murder American Muslims. Hey, I like that tactic, thanks! :lol:
 
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I find it amazing in Forum After Forum that some are astonished if not belligerent over the theme's of certain threads wandering due to comparison, analogy etc. The problem is that it happens so often as to label those complaining as being rather inconsistent.

If We are talking about Hitler - DON't mention Stalin, If We are talking about Anita Hill , DON'T mention Gennifer Flowers - If we are talking About Arnold Schwarnznegger DON'T mention Gray Davis .
 
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I just want to know how these rednecks think they'd actually accomplish such a thing. What, they're going to drive up I-95 in a bunch of cars loaded with rifles and storm Congress? That, somehow, a flight of black hawks wouldn't just buzz by and mow them down?

edit: See this guy? He's been ordered to defend what you're trying to attack. My money's on him.
 
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TacticalEvilDan

So then what does Sharia law have to do with the subject of this thread?
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The Constitution and the overthrow of the government is the subject of this thread and Sharia law pertains to both. Certainly there are pockets of those who want to overthow the US Government, but those who support Sharia Law would be among the most prominent.

In other words you have no such statistic, and you threw out a meaningless (i.e. "up to") number for the purpose of muddying the waters.
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In fact there are many stats telling the same thing. That you don't know about them suggests you're not terribly informed on the subject.
 
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Deuce said:
I just want to know how these rednecks think they'd actually accomplish such a thing. What, they're going to drive up I-95 in a bunch of cars loaded with rifles and storm Congress? That, somehow, a flight of black hawks wouldn't just buzz by and mow them down?

edit: See this guy? He's been ordered to defend what you're trying to attack. My money's on him.
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If you are attacked that way then it's a great way to respond. But I doubt anyone would start a war with the US, or any democracy, using those antiquated methods.
 
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Deuce said:
I just want to know how these rednecks think they'd actually accomplish such a thing. What, they're going to drive up I-95 in a bunch of cars loaded with rifles and storm Congress? That, somehow, a flight of black hawks wouldn't just buzz by and mow them down?

edit: See this guy? He's been ordered to defend what you're trying to attack. My money's on him.
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How're we doing in Afghanistan?
 
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Grant said:
The Constitution and the overthrow of the government is the subject of this thread and Sharia law pertains to both. Certainly there are pockets of those who want to overthow the US Government, but those who support Sharia Law would be among the most prominent.
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Actually, no, the subject of this thread is a particular Republican candidate who says that violent overthrow is on the table.

That has nothing to do with either the Constitution or Sharia law. Unless, of course, the candidate in question also thinks we need to do away with the Constitution and install Sharia law.

Have they said anything of the sort?

Grant said:
In fact there are many stats telling the same thing. That you don't know about them suggests you're not terribly informed on the subject.
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Well, by all means, inform me with links to these many stats telling us how many American Muslims want Sharia law, what flavor of Sharia law they want, and how they would like it to be implemented.
 
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