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NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

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OscarB63 said:
of course they are, they are smarter than the rest of us...just ask 'em if you don't believe me.
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I already know they are smarter than the rest of us. They remind me of that, everytime I get on here.
 
Whovian said:
I wonder if Crosscheck realizes who the ONLY person to use the phrase 'He doesn't look like the other Presidents on those dollar bills' & 'oh, btw... he's black' was.
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"No, I said the president is a -- *GONG!*"

[/blazing saddles]
 
apdst said:
I already know they are smarter than the rest of us. They remind me of that, everytime I get on here.
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they have to pretend its true

when one's political philosophy revolves around the belief that they know better than you do as to what's best for you, they have to claim superior intelligence

that myth also is the source of their hatred for capitalism--libs know they are smart and talented even if the marketplace doesn't value their worth wage wise nearly that high

hence their butt hurt whining about "corporations"
 
apdst said:
I already know they are smarter than the rest of us. They remind me of that, everytime I get on here.
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Funny just had a talk with a friend of mine. He said somthing along the lines of,"People in america are smarter now that they have voted for Obama." I told him,"You know many of those same people voted for Bush." He didn't know what to say.
 
Hatuey said:
Having intensively studied 'slavery' for the past 3 years and having thought about the historical implications of it to the point where I want to go to university simply so that I can become a full fledged expert on it. I simply disagree with your liberalization of the terms slavery and liberalism to make a point. I'd wish my enemy free health care and public housing long before I'd wish them to be slaves. I mean I wouldn't wish the worst of the worst human beings slavery. It's the worst state you can possibly push the human condition into. I also find it quite disrespectful to people who have actually been slaves that somebody who claims to want to engage in rational conversation would start off the conversation with it. The terms aren't even remotely comparable. Not psychologically, not historically, not sociologically. It doesn't matter how much rhetoric you use in an attempt to compare them, in practice they simply don't come close.
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Sound like an obsession.
 
This whole "they think they are smarter then us" argument is stupid. Every political party thinks they are smarter then the others. If they didn't they wouldn't think their opinions and ideas are better then the opposing parties.
 
Gibberish said:
This whole "they think they are smarter then us" argument is stupid. Every political party thinks they are smarter then the others. If they didn't they wouldn't think their opinions and ideas are better then the opposing parties.
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while your post has some merit the GOP -at least on most economic issues-engages in the attitude that you are in the best position to maximize your own happiness and wealth

liberals operate under the assumption that they know better than you

social security for example is a perfect manifestation of that nonsense
 
TurtleDude said:
while your post has some merit the GOP -at least on most economic issues-engages in the attitude that you are in the best position to maximize your own happiness and wealth

liberals operate under the assumption that they know better than you

social security for example is a perfect manifestation of that nonsense
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Knowing better then individuals has nothing to do with it. Providing for those in low income or poverty so they can overcome their challenges and help make this country a great country for everyone and not just the middle to upper class is.

With that said Social security is a terrible program. People don't need help saving retirement. The only program that should be in place is to help those in a poverty or near-to poverty state rise up from that class. It should NOT be a life long dependency though.

The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
 
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Gibberish said:
Knowing better then individuals has nothing to do with it. Providing for those in low income or poverty so they can overcome their challenges and help make this country a great country for everyone and not just the middle to upper class is.

With that said Social security is a terrible program. People don't need help saving retirement. The only program that should be in place is to help those in a poverty or near-to poverty state rise up from that class. It should NOT be a life long dependency though.

The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
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the purpose of welfare miight have been altruistic at first but right now its a scheme designed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts. a vote creating malignancy.
 
Gibberish said:
The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
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People say things like this as though welfare was the norm in this country all along, and changing it is some kind of departure.

There was very little of it for the first 160 years of the Republic. Funny, there were no castes.
 
TurtleDude said:
the purpose of welfare miight have been altruistic at first but right now its a scheme designed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts. a vote creating malignancy.
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You seriously think that politicians designed the dependency on welfare just for political reasons?

Realistically what happened is that early users became dependent on the program out of necessity and were not able to rise above it during their life time. Now their children and children's children who grew up on the program accept it is a livable state rather then the last and temporary resort it was meant to be.
 
Harshaw said:
People say things like this as though welfare was the norm in this country all along, and changing it is some kind of departure.

There was very little of it for the first 160 years of the Republic. Funny, there were no castes.
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Welfare has existed in every culture since man has existed. It has always been a norm. The difference is our populations have exploded and for some reason we created a government funded "career" out of it.

The issue with changing welfare now is that there are millions of people dependent on it. If we remove it, hundreds of thousands will likely rise up to their true potential and advance in the social/economic classes. Another few thousand will be forced to the streets and likely die there. It's Darwinism at it's finest and until a plan emerges on what to do with those unwilling or unable to rise above welfare other then letting them slowly die off on our streets the citizens of this nation won't allow a drastic change.
 
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Gibberish said:
You seriously think that politicians designed the dependency on welfare just for political reasons?

Realistically what happened is that early users became dependent on the program out of necessity and were not able to rise above it during their life time. Now their children and children's children who grew up on the program accept it is a livable state rather then the last and temporary resort it was meant to be.
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yeah I do

I think political parties do stuff to perpetuate their hold on power
 
Gibberish said:
Welfare has existed in every culture since man has existed. It has always been a norm. The difference is our populations have exploded and for some reason we created a government funded "career" out of it.
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anything the government subsidizes increases.
 
Gibberish said:
Well further discussion on that is better had in the Conspiracy Theories forum.
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really? so you don't think political parties try to do stuff that helps them stay in power?
 
TurtleDude said:
anything the government subsidizes increases.
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Yep. The welfar program was a terrible option but it was better then letting people of the time die off of starvation. What should have happened is a required detailed work placement transition program built that placed early welfare user into a private sector job so they could be weened off the program rather then allowing them to choose on dropping their quality of life to stay on the program forever.
 
TurtleDude said:
really? so you don't think political parties try to do stuff that helps them stay in power?
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You went from, and I'm paraphrasing, "welfare being scheme specifically developed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts" to "political parties try to do stuff that helps them stay in power".

The latter I agree with. Politicians do things to keep power. I don't agree "dems" specifically created the welfare program with the objective to build an economic class dependent on them.
 
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Gibberish said:
You went from, and I'm paraphrasing, "welfare being scheme specifically developed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts" to "political parties try to do stuff that helps them stay in power".

The latter I agree with. Politicians do things to keep power. I don't agree "dems" specifically created the welfare program with the objective to build an economic class dependent on them.
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Maybe they didn't see it that way initially, but it quickly became apparent to them that it was a side benefit.
 
Gibberish said:
Welfare has existed in every culture since man has existed. It has always been a norm.
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What welfare existed in say Colonial times? What welfare exists in the Cherokee Nation during the 1800's? What welfare program does the government of Somalia run today?

And don't confuse welfare with charity - they're not the same thing.
 
Look, I'm a white, Christian, conservative, male raised in the south. If there are any people who want to think that the Tea Party is grounded in racism, I beg you, PLEASE understand it isn't. I will admit, there is still racism out there, and it's shameful. I believe we're all equal in God's eyes and only GOD can judge. However, let's turn the tables. If an Africian American says oh yea, I voted for Obama cause he's black, I ain't voting for that old white man, it's accepted by the mainstream. If I as a white man had said, I'm ain't voting for a black man, well, the mainstream would have happily handed me over to the mafia, and we all know it! Was it not racist the other way around with a black saying I'm not voting for a white man WITHOUT EVEN GIVING ONE PASSING GLANCE at the issues? Honestly.

Thanks for reading

God Bless,

Big Rob
 
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bigrobmjca said:
Look, I'm a white, Christian, conservative, male raised in the south. If there are any people who want to think that the Tea Party is grounded in racism, I beg you, PLEASE understand it isn't. I will admit, there is still racism out there, and it's shameful. I believe we're all equal in God's eyes and only GOD can judge. However, let's turn the tables. If an Africian American says oh yea, I voted for Obama cause he's black, I ain't voting for that old white man, it's accepted by the mainstream. If I as a white man had said, I'm ain't voting for a black man, well, the mainstream would have happily handed me over to the mafia, and we all know it! Was it not racist the other way around with a black saying I'm not voting for a white man WITHOUT EVEN GIVING ONE PASSING GLANCE at the issues? Honestly.

Thanks for reading

God Bless,

Big Rob
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sorry dude, everyone knows that you can't be a racist unless you are white. :shrug:

That's why there will always be racism. until the minorities admit that they are part of the problem, there can be no solution.
 
The NAACP is the most racist organization in America since the Ku Klux Klan.

Their doctrine in five words: "Fear Whitey, and vote Democrat."
 
Gill said:
Maybe they didn't see it that way initially, but it quickly became apparent to them that it was a side benefit.
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That very well may be but wasn't what was presented. Welfare program is definitely perverted by politicians now. I highly doubt it was a "scheme specifically developed" for political power.
 
Just so I'm clear on my stance to the OP. I think the Tea Party IS NOT racist and I do think NAACP IS racist.
 
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