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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    This whole "they think they are smarter then us" argument is stupid. Every political party thinks they are smarter then the others. If they didn't they wouldn't think their opinions and ideas are better then the opposing parties.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    This whole "they think they are smarter then us" argument is stupid. Every political party thinks they are smarter then the others. If they didn't they wouldn't think their opinions and ideas are better then the opposing parties.
    while your post has some merit the GOP -at least on most economic issues-engages in the attitude that you are in the best position to maximize your own happiness and wealth

    liberals operate under the assumption that they know better than you

    social security for example is a perfect manifestation of that nonsense



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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    while your post has some merit the GOP -at least on most economic issues-engages in the attitude that you are in the best position to maximize your own happiness and wealth

    liberals operate under the assumption that they know better than you

    social security for example is a perfect manifestation of that nonsense
    Knowing better then individuals has nothing to do with it. Providing for those in low income or poverty so they can overcome their challenges and help make this country a great country for everyone and not just the middle to upper class is.

    With that said Social security is a terrible program. People don't need help saving retirement. The only program that should be in place is to help those in a poverty or near-to poverty state rise up from that class. It should NOT be a life long dependency though.

    The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Knowing better then individuals has nothing to do with it. Providing for those in low income or poverty so they can overcome their challenges and help make this country a great country for everyone and not just the middle to upper class is.

    With that said Social security is a terrible program. People don't need help saving retirement. The only program that should be in place is to help those in a poverty or near-to poverty state rise up from that class. It should NOT be a life long dependency though.

    The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
    the purpose of welfare miight have been altruistic at first but right now its a scheme designed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts. a vote creating malignancy.



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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The "every man for himself" mentality has the potential of forcing some to help themselves but also has great potential of dividing this country into India style social classes.
    People say things like this as though welfare was the norm in this country all along, and changing it is some kind of departure.

    There was very little of it for the first 160 years of the Republic. Funny, there were no castes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the purpose of welfare miight have been altruistic at first but right now its a scheme designed to create and perpetuate a class dependent on the dems for handouts. a vote creating malignancy.
    You seriously think that politicians designed the dependency on welfare just for political reasons?

    Realistically what happened is that early users became dependent on the program out of necessity and were not able to rise above it during their life time. Now their children and children's children who grew up on the program accept it is a livable state rather then the last and temporary resort it was meant to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    People say things like this as though welfare was the norm in this country all along, and changing it is some kind of departure.

    There was very little of it for the first 160 years of the Republic. Funny, there were no castes.
    Welfare has existed in every culture since man has existed. It has always been a norm. The difference is our populations have exploded and for some reason we created a government funded "career" out of it.

    The issue with changing welfare now is that there are millions of people dependent on it. If we remove it, hundreds of thousands will likely rise up to their true potential and advance in the social/economic classes. Another few thousand will be forced to the streets and likely die there. It's Darwinism at it's finest and until a plan emerges on what to do with those unwilling or unable to rise above welfare other then letting them slowly die off on our streets the citizens of this nation won't allow a drastic change.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    You seriously think that politicians designed the dependency on welfare just for political reasons?

    Realistically what happened is that early users became dependent on the program out of necessity and were not able to rise above it during their life time. Now their children and children's children who grew up on the program accept it is a livable state rather then the last and temporary resort it was meant to be.
    yeah I do

    I think political parties do stuff to perpetuate their hold on power



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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Welfare has existed in every culture since man has existed. It has always been a norm. The difference is our populations have exploded and for some reason we created a government funded "career" out of it.
    anything the government subsidizes increases.



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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah I do

    I think political parties do stuff to perpetuate their hold on power
    Well further discussion on that is better had in the Conspiracy Theories forum.
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