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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Seriously? Is this what you wish to reduce the debate to? Sure there are, as I said before, there are racist elements in all types of groups, including the tea party, and including the democrat party.
    So then this is not unfounded:

    washingtonpost.com

    A new report, backed by the NAACP, has found what it says are efforts by white nationalist groups and militias to link themselves to the tea party movement, even as some tea party leaders have expelled members who have expressed racist sentiment.
    For once in your life show some consistency in your arguments. There are racist groups which link themselves to the Tea Party. Is that a fact or not?

    Point is, it is dishonest smearing to associate the tea party with racism as the racist group the NAACP is doing. Have you visited the site? They list the supposed racist ones right along with the ones that have denounced any racism.
    Dishonest? How is it dishonest? Is it not a fact that there are racist elements within the Tea Party? Is it not a fact that there are racist groups seeking to associate themselves with the Tea Party? Which part of this is a smear on the Tea Party if the facts support the assertions being made?

    Did you think you just won something or what?
    No, I'm simply showing what hypocrites the most ardent supporters of the Tea Party are. You have absolutely no problem in saying that the Democratic Party has racist elements while ignoring the fact that it has worked tirelessly for decades to correct the wrongs of the past. The Tea Party has only existed for what? 2 years? And yet we're seeing the underlying sociological groups which support it as being verfiably associated with radical right wing racist groups. The difference is the average Democrat who's read a book or two on the history of the party will admit what are facts about the party. The Tea Party refuses to accept any kind of responsability for the associations it creates while claiming to speak in one voice. Either it's one voice or it's many. Which is it?
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    ALL political parties have racist elements. ALL parties should work to pruge those elements.

    Can we move on now, please?

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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    When have we claimed to speak in one voice?


    It's sad all the vitriol you spout, embarrassing actually.


    Lower taxes
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    That's the tea party. Race has nothing to do with it. You want to lie and define the tea party by a select few racists who claim to be tea party folk.


    It's funny, I can demonstrate btw, that most white power movements are closer to the liberal side of things than they are conservative, at least for thier fellow white folk.

    Should I start 200 threads on that?


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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    ALL political parties have racist elements. ALL parties should work to pruge those elements.

    Can we move on now, please?


    are you kidding me? They wont be happy until they brand us all as racists.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It's funny, I can demonstrate btw, that most white power movements are closer to the liberal side of things than they are conservative, at least for thier fellow white folk.

    Should I start 200 threads on that?
    If you actually could do that I have no doubt that you would. And I would love to see it. But we all know you're just blowing smoke.

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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    I take this study more seriously:

    By Amy Gardner
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, October 14, 2010; 6:00 AM

    A new analysis of political signs displayed at a tea party rally in Washington last month reveals that the vast majority of activists expressed narrow concerns about the government's economic and spending policies and steered clear of the racially charged anti-Obama messages that have helped define some media coverage of such events.

    Emily Ekins, a graduate student at UCLA, conducted the survey at the 9/12 Taxpayer March on Washington last month by scouring the crowd, row by row and hour by hour, and taking a picture of every sign she passed.

    Ekins photographed about 250 signs, and more than half of those she saw reflected a "limited government ethos," she found - touching on such topics as the role of government, liberty, taxes, spending, deficit and concern about socialism. Examples ranged from the simple message "$top the $pending" scrawled in black-marker block letters to more elaborate drawings of bar charts, stop signs and one poster with the slogan "Socialism is Legal Theft" and a stick-figure socialist pointing a gun at the head of a taxpayer.

    There were uglier messages, too - including "Obama Bin Lyin' - Impeach Now" and "Somewhere in Kenya a Village is Missing its Idiot." But Ekins's analysis showed that only about a quarter of all signs reflected direct anger with Obama. Only 5 percent of the total mentioned the president's race or religion, and slightly more than 1 percent questioned his American citizenship.

    Ekins's conclusion is not that the racially charged messages are unimportant but that media coverage of tea party rallies over the past year have focused so heavily on the more controversial signs that it has contributed to the perception that such content dominates the tea party movement more than it actually does.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I take this study more seriously:
    By Amy Gardner
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, October 14, 2010; 6:00 AM

    A new analysis of political signs displayed at a tea party rally in Washington last month reveals that the vast majority of activists expressed narrow concerns about the government's economic and spending policies and steered clear of the racially charged anti-Obama messages that have helped define some media coverage of such events.

    Emily Ekins, a graduate student at UCLA, conducted the survey at the 9/12 Taxpayer March on Washington last month by scouring the crowd, row by row and hour by hour, and taking a picture of every sign she passed.

    Ekins photographed about 250 signs, and more than half of those she saw reflected a "limited government ethos," she found - touching on such topics as the role of government, liberty, taxes, spending, deficit and concern about socialism. Examples ranged from the simple message "$top the $pending" scrawled in black-marker block letters to more elaborate drawings of bar charts, stop signs and one poster with the slogan "Socialism is Legal Theft" and a stick-figure socialist pointing a gun at the head of a taxpayer.

    There were uglier messages, too - including "Obama Bin Lyin' - Impeach Now" and "Somewhere in Kenya a Village is Missing its Idiot." But Ekins's analysis showed that only about a quarter of all signs reflected direct anger with Obama. Only 5 percent of the total mentioned the president's race or religion, and slightly more than 1 percent questioned his American citizenship.

    Ekins's conclusion is not that the racially charged messages are unimportant but that media coverage of tea party rallies over the past year have focused so heavily on the more controversial signs that it has contributed to the perception that such content dominates the tea party movement more than it actually does.

    washingtonpost.com
    How dare you bring facts into the discussion!

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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It's funny, I can demonstrate btw, that most white power movements are closer to the liberal side of things than they are conservative, at least for thier fellow white folk.
    most members of the KKK are southern democrats. but it's the republicans who are racists. go figure.
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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ekins's conclusion is not that the racially charged messages are unimportant but that media coverage of tea party rallies over the past year have focused so heavily on the more controversial signs that it has contributed to the perception that such content dominates the tea party movement more than it actually does.
    Oh, but there's no bias in the media.

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    Re: NAACP backs report that ties racist groups to tea party

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    are you kidding me? They wont be happy until they brand us all as racists.
    That may be the goal, and it is rather dishonest. It may be that some racist groups try to tie themselves to political parties or movements. But does that mean the party or movement is then racist? Not really, I mean it is possible but it does not necessitate it. And I think the Tea Party isn't a racist platform; but rather one of pissed off people that was well captured by the Republican arm of the Republocrats and turned into political propaganda.
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