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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

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    Aw, yes, you are so right, those evil "teabaggers" who believe in personal responsibility as well as fiscal responsibility. We cannot have that and keep power, can we liberals? The second Obama term was created by the very poorly informed person who continues to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. No Obama supporter can cite a specific program Obama has implemented that has been a success as evidenced by verifiable economic results.
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    Here's the reason that the r's(small r) lost the election.If they would have had a real Republican with a large R they would have won the election by a landslide.The sad thing is the lames that seem to think that they have to kiss bagger ass that to get elected. Reagan wouldn't make the cut with today's clown car.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

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    Here's the reason that the r's(small r) lost the election.If they would have had a real Republican with a large R they would have won the election by a landslide.The sad thing is the lames that seem to think that they have to kiss bagger ass that to get elected. Reagan wouldn't make the cut with today's clown car.
    No, the reason that Republicans lost the election is because Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff" and liberals love it that way. How anyone can support someone who has generated the results of Obama is beyond comprehension unless you either work for the govt. or are dependent on the taxpayer for assistance. When you have over 100 million people dependent on a large central govt. it is hard to win a national election when you talk about things like personal and fiscal responsibility. I suggest you look at actual results and stop buying rhetoric.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

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    No, the reason that Republicans lost the election is because Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff" and liberals love it that way.
    What is the "stuff" that match's unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan)of the last administration?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

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    What is the "stuff" that match's unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan)of the last administration?
    That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.
    Is that the best i can do?

    I show you an unfunded plan that cast the American taxpaying public anywhere between $9.4 trillion dollara and $16 trillion dollars and you're saying "Is that the best i can do? "

    So tell me what was the cost of the "stuff "that you were referring to?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.
    LOL. A conservative talking about math not adding up. Have you looked at the Ryan budget?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Is that the best i can do?

    I show you an unfunded plan that cast the American taxpaying public anywhere between $9.4 trillion dollara and $16 trillion dollars and you're saying "Is that the best i can do? "

    So tell me what was the cost of the "stuff "that you were referring to?
    No, what you showed is that you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric and ignore the results. The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it?

    Since you don't seem to understand the so called Medicare mandate it isn't surprising that you don't understand what Obama has generated in the terms of free stuff. Whether it be cell phones, "free" breakfast, lunch, and dinner, education entitlements, healthcare entitlements, almost unlimited unemployment benefits, those don't matter to the Obamabots who believe that is the role of the Federal Govt. What Obama is doing is transforming America into a European entitlement society that will collapse under its own weight and that is ok with you?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL. A conservative talking about math not adding up. Have you looked at the Ryan budget?
    Yeah, I sure have, have you?

    PAUL RYAN'S PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS

    A List of Republican Budget Cuts
    Notice S.S. and the military are NOT on this list.These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting. Read to the end.

    * Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy -- $445 million annual savings.
    * Save America 's Treasures Program -- $25 million annual savings.
    * International Fund for Ireland -- $17 million annual savings.
    * Legal Services Corporation -- $420 million annual savings.
    * National Endowment for the Arts -- $167.5 million annual savings.
    * National Endowment for the Humanities -- $167.5 million annual savings.
    * Hope VI Program -- $250 million annual savings.
    * Amtrak Subsidies -- $1.565 billion annual savings.
    * Eliminate duplicating education programs -- H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
    * U.S. Trade Development Agency -- $55 million annual savings.
    * Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy -- $20 million annual savings.
    * Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding -- $47 million annual savings.
    * John C. Stennis Center Subsidy -- $430,000 annual savings.
    * Community Development Fund -- $4.5 billion annual savings.
    * Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid -- $24 million annual savings.
    * Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half -- $7.5 billion annual savings
    * Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20% -- $600 million annual savings.
    * Essential Air Service -- $150 million annual savings.
    * Technology Innovation Program -- $70 million annual savings.
    * Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program -- $125 million annual savings..
    * Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization -- $530 million annual savings.
    * Beach Replenishment -- $95 million annual savings.
    * New Starts Transit -- $2 billion annual savings.
    �������Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts -- $9 million annual savings
    * Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants -- $2.5 billion annual savings.
    * Title X Family Planning -- $318 million annual savings.
    * Appalachian Regional Commission -- $76 million annual savings.
    * Economic Development Administration -- $293 million annual savings.
    * Programs under the National and Community Services Act -- $1.15 billion annual savings.
    * Applied Research at Department of Energy -- $1.27 billion annual savings.
    * Freedom CAR and Fuel Partnership -- $200 million annual savings..
    * Energy Star Program -- $52 million annual savings.
    *Economic Assistance to Egypt -- $250 million annually.
    * U.S.Agency for International Development -- $1.39 billion annual savings.
    * General Assistance to District of Columbia -- $210 million annual savings.
    * Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority -- $150 million annual savings.
    *Presidential Campaign Fund -- $775 million savings over ten years.
    * No funding for federal office space acquisition -- $864 million annual savings.
    * End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
    * Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act -- More than $1 billion annually.
    * IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget -- $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
    *Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees -- $1 billion total savings.WHAT THE HECK IS THISABOUT?
    * Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees -- $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
    * Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of -- $15 billion total savings.
    *Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.WHAT???
    * Eliminate Mohair Subsidies -- $1 million annual savings.
    *Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- $12.5 million annual savings� WELL ISN'T THAT SPECIAL
    * Eliminate Market Access Program -- $200 million annual savings.
    * USDA Sugar Program -- $14 million annual savings.
    * Subsidy to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) -- $93 million annual savings.
    * Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program -- $56.2 million annual savings.
    *Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs-- $900 million savings.
    * Ready to Learn TV Program -- $27 million savings..
    * HUD Ph.D. Program.
    * Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
    *TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

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    Yeah, I sure have, have you?
    Even conservatives are not pleased. You would think Ryan learned something from his failed election last year


    The Ryan budget keeps the level of revenue that resulted from the tax increases that came at the start of the year, but it aims to raise that revenue with a new tax code that features a top rate of 25 percent. A 25 percent rate would mean a big tax cut for the highest earners in the country: Someone who makes $1 million a year isn’t going to have enough tax breaks to make up for a 14.6 percentage-point reduction in rates. The middle class would almost certainly have to pay higher average tax rates to make the numbers work. A similar plan seems to have been a serious political liability for Mitt Romney in last fall’s presidential election.
    Paul Ryan
    The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “Regrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Even conservatives are not pleased. You would think Ryan learned something from his failed election last year




    Paul Ryan
    The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “Regrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.
    I will take what you call "fuzzy math" over the lies and deceptions of Obama. Where are the Obama actual cuts, not cuts in growth but actual cuts. Republicans may never win another election because the entitlement mentality promoted by Democrats. Today's Democrat Party is a disaster and will collapse this country under the weight of the debt being created. Like far too many you have no idea how the debt affects you, the value of your dollars, and the future of this Country, neither does Obama.

    Obama took office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt that today is 16.6 trillion. That is the reality that you ignore along with the failure of Obama to enact any cuts to address that debt.

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