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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    President is not responsible for adding $3 trillion to the debt, your hero President Bush is responsible for much of it. When President Obama entered the WH there was a $1.3 trillion deficit waiting for him.
    Sorry but that is wrong, deficits are yearly and Bush was in office only 4 months of fiscal year 2009. He left 350 billion of the TARP money for Obama to spend and Bush had nothing to do with the stimulus program. There is no way that the 1.3 trillion deficit was created in 4 months. Tell me what Obama did with the TARP payback?

    Most of the 2009 deficit was Obama's and all of the 2010 deficit was his. You can spin it but you cannot refute actual facts.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    And yet I doubt these heroes of self-reliance and the American way will push for the discontinuation of corporate welfare policies. The only kind of welfare state these people will be happy with is one that is ordered to support the wealthy.
    What is corporate welfare, companies keeping more of what they earn?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Actually thinking they're fighting communism. Mass delusion, hysteria, political dementia? WTF is it?


    You would be more comfortable at gatherings where Harry Belafonte was the Headliner (??)

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    plus a recession plus two unfinished wars.
    you mean the two wars that Obama hasn't ended or the recession that ended last June before any Obama policies really took effect. we see the affects of those this year with economic growth slowing and unemployment higher each month this year vs. last.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is corporate welfare, companies keeping more of what they earn?
    In our modern, global economy, corporations only exist because governments support them, directly, through subsidies and protectionist policies, and indirectly, through infrastructure. Businesses can't grow that large otherwise. As such, even if they pay half their income in taxes, they are still making far more money than they would if the government did not support them. Because the business they would otherwise manage would only give them a fraction of the salary a corporation enables.
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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    you mean the two wars that Obama hasn't ended or the recession that ended last June before any Obama policies really took effect. we see the affects of those this year with economic growth slowing and unemployment higher each month this year vs. last.

    Uhhmm......no.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    In our modern, global economy, corporations only exist because governments support them, directly, through subsidies and protectionist policies, and indirectly, through infrastructure. Businesses can't grow that large otherwise. As such, even if they pay half their income in taxes, they are still making far more money than they would if the government did not support them. Because the business they would otherwise manage would only give them a fraction of the salary a corporation enables.
    There are many kinds of corporations, those that you seem to hate are the huge corporations which constitute less than 20% of the work force and that corporate welfare that you are concerned about is actually tax reductions from income actually earned by those companies. That seems to bother you, companies keeping more of what they earn. Are you just as concerned about people keeping more of what they earn?

    Interesting how some care more about what others make and pay in taxes vs. how much waste, fraud, and abuse there is in our govt. with the tax revenue they take in.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    WHAT A JOKE!

    If this was a secret meeting you wouldn't know it was taking place and you sure as hell wouldn't know what the topic is going to be.

    Fact is California is about to go into full economic melt down because of Radical of Liberals on the California Air Resources Boad who should be in jail or at least run out of the state n a rail for preparing to cause gas prices to go over $9 a gal, charge each driver who uses the freeways to go to work up to $5,000 a year, raise electric bils by over 30% and rive people out of their suburban homes into cities and onto public transportation that does not even exist.

    This is pure Liberal BS propaganda, and nothing more.

    Why didn't they claim they are being back by secret international funding. Oh yes it's because the Democrats were found to have some foreign funding themselves.

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhhmm......no.
    You mean the war ended and our troops are home? Must have missed that in the Houston Chronicle

    You mean the recession didn't end in June 2009, NBER: Recession Over in June 2009 - Real Time Economics - WSJ

    Gee wonder why unemployment is up each month of 2010 and why economic growth was 1.6% last qtr since the recession ended and Obama brought us back from the brink?

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    Re: Secretive Republican Donors Are Planning Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There are many kinds of corporations, those that you seem to hate are the huge corporations which constitute less than 20% of the work force and that corporate welfare that you are concerned about is actually tax reductions from income actually earned by those companies. That seems to bother you, companies keeping more of what they earn. Are you just as concerned about people keeping more of what they earn?

    Interesting how some care more about what others make and pay in taxes vs. how much waste, fraud, and abuse there is in our govt. with the tax revenue they take in.
    No. All except the smallest businesses are subject to the principle. True, the larger the corporation the larger the benefit, but the growth of any business is proportionate to the ability of the government to provide them with the support system described above.

    A market without any government support (except perhaps the most minimal kind of contract enforcement) would be a bunch of small businesses enveloping each other and then disintegrating, and I doubt few would last more then a decade.

    These people take most of the support they receive as privileges or entitlements - things they deserve them because they are the ones driving the growth of American society. Meanwhile, any perceived injury to their interests is a great injustice and a blow not just to themselves, but to freedom.
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