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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Jeeez... didn't think I had to spell it out for you. I mean we not school children here.

    Posting it on their website doesn't mean jack-ship pal. When the big three do an on-air story about this, get back to us. I won't be holding my breath though, because it doesn't conform to their pro-Messiah ideology, and they don't want to hurt the chances of their anointed one.

    So lets move along people... nothing to see here.
    Say whatever you like in order to justify your denial of reality.

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Say whatever you like in order to justify your denial of reality.
    Move along now... move along.

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    The question should not be 'Did a liberal leaning media outlet cover this'. They did.

    The question should be 'Did a liberal leaning media outlet cover this in as much depth and as often as they did the Chamber of Commerce story'. I do not believe they did. Yet.
    Are they equal? I mean this implies that all situations are equal. The media did not cover republicans in the vien that they were guilty. In fact, much of the coverage hurt Obama and democrats more than anything else. This is a much less sensational story as it is completely legal and not hidden. There's no secret here. Nothing illegal. Therefore, not a hot story. Any unbiased person understanding the nature of for profit journalism would not rate the two as equal.

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just a couple of things:

    The donations do not violate any campaign finance rules.

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    These donations, however, are made public through filings with the Federal Election Commission. Democrats, by contrast have accused organizations like the Karl Rove-affiliated American Crossroads and the business lobbying group the U.S. Chamber of Commerce of "taking secret foreign money to influence our elections."

    (snip)

    Democrats have tried to emphasize that, while they have no proof that these groups are using foreign money for their political activities, the point is that their political donors are kept secret.

    Democrats Took $1M from Foreign-Affiliated PACs, Report Shows - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


    If democrats say republican are taking funds for a foreign government or nation, they must provide evidence. If, however, there point is the money is secret, something that is factually correct, they should emphasize that point and not that there are foreign contributions.
    That may be the spin they're trying to use now, but it sure wasn't the point they originally made.
    WASHINGTON —White House adviser David Axelrod on Sunday echoed a charge made by President Barack Obama that foreign money was helping to fund Republican campaigns, but didn’t offer any evidence to back up the allegation.

    Axelrod, appearing on the CBS show “Face the Nation,” said the U.S. Chamber of Commerce was accepting donations from foreign entities to help fund its $75 million in planned advertising spending for the November mid-term elections.

    “The Chamber of Commerce won’t release any information” about the source of their funding, Axelrod said. “All we have is their assertion” that dues paid by foreign members of the Chamber of Commerce are kept separate from the group’s campaign-finance war chest, he added.

    CBS host Bob Schieffer asked Axelrod to provide evidence that the chamber was using foreign money. “Do you have any evidence it’s not, Bob?” Mr. Axelrod responded. He added, echoing Obama’s comments again: “That is a threat to our democracy.”

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    This whole thing is just sleazy rumormongering campaign started by the White House and spread by Obama's sycophants everywhere. Considering that the executive branch controls the Department of Justice, I'm sure if they had any evidence, they'd investigate. Since it's now clear this is just a political ploy, I think they'll just stick with spreading rumors and casting aspersions.
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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are they equal? I mean this implies that all situations are equal. The media did not cover republicans in the vien that they were guilty. In fact, much of the coverage hurt Obama and democrats more than anything else. This is a much less sensational story as it is completely legal and not hidden. There's no secret here. Nothing illegal. Therefore, not a hot story. Any unbiased person understanding the nature of for profit journalism would not rate the two as equal.
    Equal? Possibly not. But close enough where more coverage would have been appropriate, IMHO.

    Your comments 'nothing illegal here' would make me think you feel there was somethign illegal going on with the CofC... however, 'no evidence' has been presented showing that to be the case.

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Move along now... move along.
    You do know that more people get their news from the Internet than from television, right?

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Equal? Possibly not. But close enough where more coverage would have been appropriate, IMHO.

    Your comments 'nothing illegal here' would make me think you feel there was somethign illegal going on with the CofC... however, 'no evidence' has been presented showing that to be the case.
    Actually, what makes the other story more deserving, if that's the word we want to use, is because it has the accusatory element to it. That hypes the controvesy, which brings in viewers. If the accusations were provable, it would likely have an illegal element. but the story is about the attack, not the money donated. In a political season, this makes news, sadly.

    There is such fire in this story. No accusation. Nothing not known. So, no element of mystery. Nothing anyone can find scandalous. It doesn't have the same ability to sell.

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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    National Democrats have charged that a House candidate endorsed by a controversial anti-immigration group has “Nazi ties” — but six other congressional Democrats also have the group’s endorsement, and at least one has enthusiastically embraced its support.

    The group, Americans for Legal Immigration, or ALIPAC, supports candidates and incumbents who oppose creating a path to citizenship for the thousands of undocumented immigrants in the United States. The Anti-Defamation League has criticized ALIPAC for what it says is support from white supremacist and racist groups.

    “Another [National Republican Congressional Committee] Young Gun candidate, another Nazi tie — it should come as no surprise,” Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spokesman Andy Stone said in a statement Monday. He said the group was “on the racist fringe” and that it was “backed by anti-Semites and white supremacists.”

    But six Democrats: Reps. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Gene Taylor of Mississippi, Pete DeFazio of Oregon, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina and Jim Marshall and John Barrow of Georgia, all have the group’s endorsement.
    Group hit by DCCC backed 6 Dems - Kasie Hunt - POLITICO.com

    of course, what would you expect from a national leadership that ACCUSES american citizens of ILLEGAL activity based on no more reason than "it appears" and "i can assert anything i want to, bob"

    pathetic

    why can't democrat candidates from arizona to new hampshire, from florida to alaska, talk about the NATIONAL ISSUES---jobs, debt, spending, obamacare, energy, taxes, afghanistan, the border...

    why did the party punt on middle class tax cuts in favor of ADJOURNMENT?

    seeya at the polls, progressives

    two weeks from today!
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    Re: Democrats took $1M from Foriegn-Affiliated PAC's

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Jeeez... didn't think I had to spell it out for you. I mean we not school children here.

    Posting it on their website doesn't mean jack-ship pal. When the big three do an on-air story about this, get back to us. I won't be holding my breath though, because it doesn't conform to their pro-Messiah ideology, and they don't want to hurt the chances of their anointed one.

    So lets move along people... nothing to see here.
    Somehow I don't think you read the CBS story; maybe the headline or OP's distortion, but not the story itself.


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