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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Let the excuses begin!
    Really - at what point will liberals hold The Obama responsible for this?
    Facts without a full context. Love it.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Now, this is just sour grapes. You set a standard and I'm using it.
    Don't like it? Perhaps you should exhibit a little honesty and reconsider that standard.
    Ok, than this would give me license to take what you say out of context and with deliberate misunderstanding and apply it back to you? I am willing to bet you would think such a thing would be dishonest.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I have already explained why you are doing it dishonestly
    Hardly. Your standard must necessarly applies everywhere, not just where you want it to - else you're just trying to conveniently pick and choose when a subjective argument is valid and when its not.
    THAT is dishonest.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Ok, than this would give me license to take what you say out of context...
    I didnlt take anything you said out of context, and you know it.
    Its YOUR standard. Live with it or discard it.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hardly. Your standard must necessarly applies everywhere, not just where you want it to - else you're just trying to conveniently pick and choose when a subjective argument is valid and when its not.
    THAT is dishonest.
    That is not true and you know it. In fact the idea behind that is pretty idiotic. Different types of situations require different types of thinking to understand them.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 10-20-10 at 04:48 PM.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Thats not true and you know it. All situations are not the same and they require different types of thinking to understand them.
    Oh. So, sometimes, criticisms based on subjective standards are not valid?
    Like... when?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    The federal budget was last in balance from 1998 to 2001.

    Obama's debt. "The Debt increased $4.9 trillion during President Bush's two terms. The Administration has projected the National Debt will soar in Mr. Obama's fourth year in office to nearly $16.5-trillion in 2012. That's more than 100 percent of the value of the nation's economy and $5.9-trillion above what it was his first day on the job."

    Bush came into office owing what? Bush inherited a great economy.

    Obama came into office with the government owing what?

    reality bites.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Oh. So, sometimes, criticisms based on subjective standards are not valid?
    Like... when?
    That's not true either. It is a mix of opinion, the data in which we draw the opinion from, and the context surrounding which informs us of the constraints of the situation. That's three different types of thinking right there. However, IN THIS SITUATION, the opinion, I believe, should be weighted most heavily.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Bush came into office owing what? Bush inherited a great economy.
    The economy was in recession when GWB took office, which continued for 6-9 more months.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I bit of it yes, but I really wouldn't call it blame as almost all of the spending was necessary. To me, blame implies that he did something wrong (really the biggest blame I have for him, is he hasn't done enough)
    Necessary ??

    Was the rebuilding of New York City and care for the people there after 9/11 unnecessary ??

    Was the rebuilding of the nation's economy after 9/11 unnecessary ??

    Was defeating the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11and the nation that harbored them unnecessary ??

    Was the formation of the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect us from another attack unnecessary ??

    Was rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina unnecessary ??

    Which ones would you have eliminated ?

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