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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?


    You also don't like liver. So what?
    Fine, if you are going to troll, I will just report you

    Though I would prefer you at least make an effort to respond to my points.
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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Then there was the Bush bailout. How much did that add? To the debt totals?
    That would be factored into the 'Bush' presidency time frame and debt/deficit - not 'Obama's'
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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Maybe I misspoke. I think the economy was doing great.
    BEA numbers show otherwise, in terms of growth.
    It may not have been as bas as now, but the economy was not 'doing great' Jan 2001.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    New Orleans is still largely in ruins, but overall, I don't think it was necessary beyond cleaning up any unsafe areas
    What's New Orleans got to do with New York City ????

    Of course, and I supported some of the stimulus that Bush did, even though I think he did it in an ineffective manner
    Ahh, so Obama rebuilding the economy = good, Bush rebuilding the economy = bad

    your partisan skirt is showing.

    Afghanistan was, Iraq was not
    I didn't say Iraq did I ?
    Yes
    They've kept us safe for almost ten years, seems worth it to me.
    New Orleans is still largely in ruins
    No it's not. Have you ever been there?? Billions were spent rebuilding dikes and levees. Would you have abandoned the city and left it vulnerable to the next storm ??

    Iraq, homeland security, a lot of the silly measures that cost lots of money but do nothing for our safety (like giving awesome equipment to redneck police departments), the medicare prescription thing, no child left behind (even though that was largely unfunded), some other stuff.
    That's your opinion. We'll see how you feel about police being able to talk to each other if we're ever attacked again.

    And by your bigoted comment on "redneck" police departments, I take it that you believe only large cities on the coasts deserve good equipment ??

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Fine, if you are going to troll, I will just report you
    Trolling?

    Using -your- standard to counter - and thus, negate - your criticisms is trolling?


    Its YOUR standard. Dont blame ME if you don't like the consequesnces of adopting it.
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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Then there was the Bush bailout. How much did that add? To the debt totals?
    I asked this before, and you did not answer:
    How much of it was spent before Jan 21 2009?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Recession with a balanced budget? How much was the national debt when Bush took office? You were talking about and comparing the national debt, weren't you?
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    The National Debt stood at $10.626 trillion the day Mr. Obama was inaugurated. The Bureau of Public Debt reported today that the National Debt had hit an all time high of $13.665 trillion.

    The Debt increased $4.9 trillion during President Bush's two terms. The Administration has projected the National Debt will soar in Mr. Obama's fourth year in office to nearly $16.5-trillion in 2012. That's more than 100 percent of the value of the nation's economy and $5.9-trillion above what it was his first day on the job.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    What's New Orleans got to do with New York City ????
    Sorry, I was making a point, but it was not necessary since I didn't think you included New Orleans at first, my mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, so Obama rebuilding the economy = good, Bush rebuilding the economy = bad
    The how is as important as the what. See the next reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    your partisan skirt is showing.
    Its based on the economics I believe to be true Often spending is more effective than tax cuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I didn't say Iraq did I ?
    I thought it was implied.

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    They've kept us safe for almost ten years, seems worth it to me.
    This website repels space aliens because there haven't been any for ten years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No it's not. Have you ever been there?? Billions were spent rebuilding dikes and levees. Would you have abandoned the city and left it vulnerable to the next storm ??
    There are still scores of abandoned houses in many neighborhoods. Many are not rebuilt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    That's your opinion. We'll see how you feel about police being able to talk to each other if we're ever attacked again.

    And by your bigoted comment on "redneck" police departments, I take it that you believe only large cities on the coasts deserve good equipment ??
    Larger cities can use the equipment more effectively as they are more centralized and often contain actual targets.
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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Trolling?

    Using -your- standard to counter - and thus, negate - your criticisms is trolling?


    Its YOUR standard. Dont blame ME if you don't like the consequesnces of adopting it.
    I have already pointed out the flaws in your thinking, you choose to ignore them and troll me instead, knowing that you are deliberately misunderstanding me. I have done the right thing here.
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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I have already pointed out the flaws in your thinking
    No, you have stated your opinion that there is a flaw in my thinking.
    That statement is an opinion, which, as you argue, is purely subjective.
    As such, it is no more meaningful that stating you do not like liver.

    Now, if you would like to change your mind about all this and create an objective criticism as to how my thinking is flawed, go right ahead.

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