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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The economy was in recession when GWB took office, which continued for 6-9 more months.
    Recession with a balanced budget? How much was the national debt when Bush took office? You were talking about and comparing the national debt, weren't you?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    That's not true either.
    Oh. So, criticiems based on subjective standards -are- always valid.
    Except, of course, they carry no more weight than stating you dont like liver.
    How then have I done anything to take you out of context?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 10-20-10 at 04:57 PM.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Recession with a balanced budget?
    You said that GWB inherited a great ecomomy.
    Unless you were offering sarcasm, your statement is demonstrably incorrect.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    "On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That's a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush's watch."- September 29, 2008
    Then there was the Bush bailout. How much did that add? To the debt totals?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Necessary ??

    Was the rebuilding of New York City and care for the people there after 9/11 unnecessary ??
    New Orleans is still largely in ruins, but overall, I don't think it was necessary beyond cleaning up any unsafe areas

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    Was the rebuilding of the nation's economy after 9/11 unnecessary ??
    Of course, and I supported some of the stimulus that Bush did, even though I think he did it in an ineffective manner

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Was defeating the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11and the nation that harbored them unnecessary ??
    Afghanistan was, Iraq was not

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    Was the formation of the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect us from another attack unnecessary ??
    Yes

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    Was rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina unnecessary ??
    New Orleans is still largely in ruins

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Which ones would you have eliminated ?
    Iraq, homeland security, a lot of the silly measures that cost lots of money but do nothing for our safety (like giving awesome equipment to redneck police departments), the medicare prescription thing, no child left behind (even though that was largely unfunded), some other stuff.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajay View Post
    Then there was the Bush bailout. How much did that add? To the debt totals?
    How much of it was spent before Jan 21 2009?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Oh. So, criticiems based on subjective standards -are- always valid.
    Except, of course, they carry no more weight than stating you dont like liver.
    How then have I done anything to take you out of context?
    You are giving me a false choice here. Its not a binary thing. You are trying to apply absolutes to something that is not absolute.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 10-20-10 at 05:02 PM.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You said that GWB inherited a great ecomomy.
    Unless you were offering sarcasm, your statement is demonstrably incorrect.
    Maybe I misspoke. I think the economy was doing great. I didn't buy into the 'new' economy of the Dot Com bs. Compare news stories on the economy in 2000 with news stories on the economy in 2008.

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    New Orleans is still largely in ruins, but overall, I don't think it was necessary beyond cleaning up any unsafe areas
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    Of course, and I supported some of the stimulus that Bush did, even though I think he did it in an ineffective manner
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    Afghanistan was, Iraq was not
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    Yes[the formation of the Dept. of Homeland Security to protect us from another attack was unnecessary]
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    New Orleans is still largely in ruins
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    Iraq, homeland security, a lot of the silly measures that cost lots of money but do nothing for our safety...
    You also don't like liver. So what?

    the medicare prescription thing, no child left behind (even though that was largely unfunded), some other stuff.
    You also don't like liver. So what?

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    Re: National Debt Up $3 Trillion on Obama's Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How much of it was spent before Jan 21 2009?
    "On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That's a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush's watch."- September 29, 2008
    Then there was the Bush bailout. How much did that add? To the debt totals?

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