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    O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate - FoxNews.com

    Coons said private and parochial schools are free to teach creationism but that "religious doctrine doesn't belong in our public schools."

    "Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?" O'Donnell asked him.

    When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"
    I LOVE how Fox News lowballs the headline. She "questions" separation of church and state. She didn't question it, Fox, she doesn't seem to have ****ing read the constitution!

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    It's one thing to have a different interpretation of the "establishment of religion" clause, it's another entirely to be unaware it existed.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

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    I LOVE how Fox News lowballs the headline. She "questions" separation of church and state. She didn't question it, Fox, she doesn't seem to have ****ing read the constitution!

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    Read the Constitution Deuce.

    Separation of Chruch and State is not in the Constitution.

    She is right. Its amazing you didn't know that.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Read the Constitution Deuce.

    Separation of Chruch and State is not in the Constitution.

    She is right. Its amazing you didn't know that.
    You're right, those words are not in the constitution. It is phrased differently, but its in the first amendment.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Read the Constitution Deuce.

    Separation of Chruch and State is not in the Constitution.

    She is right. Its amazing you didn't know that.
    And you should read the article. The phrase "separation of church and state" is used as shorthand for the establishment clause. It's not surprising that Deuce didn't know that, most people don't unless you have some ax to grind about prayer in school or something. Everybody else knows that "separation of church and state" is what the establishment clause basically means. And anyway, it's obvious that O'Donnell wasn't aware of the nuanced distinction between the separation of church and state and the protection against the establishment of religion. She's just clueless about the constitution altogether. Reminds me of the Sarah Palin "Africa" thing.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Your right, those words are not in the constitution. It is phrased differently, but its in the first amendment.
    Separation of Church and state isn't in the first ammendment either.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    Separation is never mentioned.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Hey, boneheads, did you even read the quote?

    When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion
    (basically verbatim from 1st amendment)

    O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Separation of Church and state isn't in the first ammendment either.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    Separation is never mentioned.
    You're pivoting the issue. Read the article and take O'Donnell's quote in context. You can tell she meant it as, "There's nothing about separation of church and state in the first amendment, because that's the amendment about freedom of speech... right?"

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Separation of Church and state isn't in the first ammendment either.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    Separation is never mentioned.
    Well, if a government cannot make a law promoting or prohibiting a religion, where is its room to be involved? That lack of room would be the separation piece.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    And you should read the article. The phrase "separation of church and state" is used as shorthand for the establishment clause.
    Its a lazy and innaccurate cooreletation.

    It's not surprising that Deuce didn't know that, most people don't unless you have some ax to grind about prayer in school or something.
    I'm not the one who started an all caps thread lambasting someone for something that wasn't true.

    Everybody else knows that "separation of church and state" is what the establishment clause basically means.
    Apparently not.

    And anyway, it's obvious that O'Donnell wasn't aware of the nuanced distinction between the separation of church and state and the protection against the establishment of religion. She's just clueless about the constitution altogether. Reminds me of the Sarah Palin "Africa" thing.
    You're right. She stated the accuracy that separation of church and state isn't the constitution so naturally she's the stupid one.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You're right. She stated the accuracy that separation of church and state isn't the constitution so naturally she's the stupid one.
    If she fails to use basic logic to understand the meaning of the first amendment, then yes she is stupid.

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