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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its a lazy and innaccurate cooreletation.



    I'm not the one who started an all caps thread lambasting someone for something that wasn't true.



    Apparently not.



    You're right. She stated the accuracy that separation of church and state isn't the constitution so naturally she's the stupid one.
    Read post #6.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Well, if a government cannot make a law promoting or prohibiting a religion, where is its room to be involved? That lack of room would be the separation piece.
    Sorry that isn't true. The idea of the phrase was based off a plea from a local minister who was conscerned about state established religion like the one he fled in Europe. That never meant that religion was to be pulled out of goverment altogether. It simply meant government would not establish a single relgion.

    Thats why we can have "In God we Trust" and the 10 commandments painted on the walls of the Supreme Court for example. They do not establish any particular religion.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Read post #6.
    And you are still wrong.

    Separation of Church and State is not the Constitution. You really need to read the history of the 1st ammendmenet in reference to the establishment of a relgion to understand it fully.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And you are still wrong.

    Separation of Church and State is not the Constitution. You really need to read the history of the 1st ammendmenet in reference to the establishment of a relgion to understand it fully.

    And you need to freshen up on the SCOTUS decisions about it.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Weird how texmaster is doing EXACTLY the spin that Fox News comment writers used. "Oh she was saying separation of church and state isn't in the constitution."

    No. That's not what she said. Coons quoted verbatim from the 1st amendment when he said that congress was barred from "making any law respecting establishment of religion."

    That's when O'Donnell responded "you're telling me that's in the first amendment?"
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its a lazy and innaccurate coreletation.
    Doesn't matter, that's just the way it is. You're hijacking the thread for your own hobby horse issue. This is about what O'Donnell thinks about the first amendment, not what texmaster thinks about it. Like it or not, everybody uses that phrase as shorthand for the establishment clause. Even you know what it is referring to, and O'Donnell does not.

    If O'Donnell had an understanding of the first amendment that was up to your level, texmaster, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. As Deuce said, an interpretation of the Constitution is one thing, but completely misunderstanding it is another thing. But even Fox News couldn't sugarcoat the fact that she is clueless. Don't be a hack about this, tex, just admit that she's clueless, too.
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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And you are still wrong.

    Separation of Church and State is not the Constitution. You really need to read the history of the 1st ammendmenet in reference to the establishment of a relgion to understand it fully.
    O'Donnell was specifically responding to "respecting establishment of religion."
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Weird how texmaster is doing EXACTLY the spin that Fox News comment writers used. "Oh she was saying separation of church and state isn't in the constitution.""

    Yeah, but at least Fox has the decency to use a deceptive headline and weasel words, which is tantamount to telling the truth, even though it is extremely deceptive. The last line of the article (where they hide the truly damning stuff from people who are too lazy to read) you see that there was an "audible gasp" from the crowd.

    Hell, if Fox were even close to objective, that would have been the lead. They really are masterful at Republican damage-control though.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, but at least Fox has the decency to use a deceptive headline and weasel words, which is tantamount to telling the truth, even though it is extremely deceptive. The last line of the article (where they hide the truly damning stuff from people who are too lazy to read) you see that there was an "audible gasp" from the crowd.

    Hell, if Fox were even close to objective, that would have been the lead. They really are masterful at Republican damage-control though.
    Whats funny is that given she has stated that the Constitution is a covenant (in the religious sense), her not even knowing it is pretty alarmingly hypocritical.

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    Re: O'Donnell Questions Separation of Church, State in Senate Debate

    At least Pat Robertson has the decency to be openly contemptuous of our secular constitution.

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