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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    Hell yes! Catholic terrorists might disguise themselves as nuns!
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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    The Quran says women should wear the hijab. If a devout Muslim woman believes she should wear the hijab then it is no different from a nun wearing a habit. Are nuns oppressed? Should we force nuns to stop wearing habits?
    Vatican II already addressed that I thought....


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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

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    What are "traditional rights", exactly?
    You genuinely do not know??

    If you are sincere then there is little need to continue this conversation.

    There is no difference between our stated rights now and what they were 40 years ago;
    And what is that difference?

    the only difference is that they are now being encroached upon and immigrants are not the source.
    In fact recently arrived Muslims have sued over not only our traditional rights of publishing opinions, but facts also. It cost tens of thousands for Canadians to defend themselves in court. And although they were naturally found "not guilty"" it is the process that is the punishment.
    Militant immigration? That is simply non-sense
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    No, it is not. And in fact you can ask some of the immigrants themselves.
    If immigrants are using the system that's already in place to enforce Canadian laws, then I say good.
    Not if the law is used is being used to stifle opinion, free speech and works only in one direction.

    Hate speech is part of that, unlike in the U.S.
    And who defines "hate speech"? Do you know?

    Your attitude is pretty typical... that the immigrants are taking over. They're not.
    If my attitude is "typical" then there might be some truth to what I say, but of course I never said they were "taking over". That is your fabrication.
    Immigrants have zero power in this country.
    That is untrue.

    Even most professionals who went to school for 10+ years in their country of origin to become doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. move here and we make it virtually impossible for them to resume their lives. We keep them at the bottom for the most part and that's the way it's always been. Immigrants have not been part of our "traditional rights" in practice because we treat them as labour to be exploited.
    That is an absolute falsehood.
    What European trap? The only thing happening to Europe right now is the result of their own immigration policies backfiring in their faces.
    Exactly.

    Most European nations are not meeting replacement in their populations; they need foreign labour to make ends meet, but they don't want to give immigrants a say in their society. In other words, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
    Take that up with Europeans.
    That is Europe's history and legacy... a bunch of bourgeois whose palace is built on the back of the rest of the world. I don't have much sympathy for nations that are now experiencing sectarian violence or rebellions within their cultural enclaves which they helped create. The systems there only make token attempts to integrate these people.
    LOL!! Recently graduated, huh?

    The western world has been in stagnant decay since the end of the Cold War, the U.S. being the exception until the past 15 years or so, and that's only because its foreign policy has guaranteed it access to what it needs to survive.
    A you quoting from a school textbook? Do you have an original thought in your head?

    Can you come up with a sound, rational and intellectual rebuttal without all of these meaningless platitudes about how defective my arguments are?
    I rather doubt it. Say something that evolves from your own world experience and we can give it a go. But that seems unlikely.

    I have a university education on these issues but more importantly I have spent more time in "developing" nations (a trite terminology) than you have, so please take your assumptions and shove it.
    In fact I'm writing this from a "developing" nation

    Democracies in North America were formed by people who came from parts of the world where people and resources were being exploited for the sake of luxury; they brought those same practices here and then revised the history to make us feel good and happy about it. Fact is, we did not build our own cities; we imported de facto slaves and indentured servants to do it. That's not my opinion, that's just the way it is. We have only recently started to emerge from an era where human exploitation was common and a fact of life.
    Perhaps you can offer some stats to support this theory of yours. Something related to reality.

    You can't talk about Canada without talking about the rest of the western world. Canada is an apple that fell from the same tree as the United States and all of the other colonies of the west.
    Your university education is serving you well.
    I'm not glossing over the fact that many people were able to arrive here and make a new live for themselves that was comparatively better than where they came from; but you can't take that and say that no exploitation happened. You can't deny that there were serious and wide inequities that remained for a long, long time and in many ways they remain to do this day. It was widespread and endemic. The western world has been at war for centuries with all corners of the globe in order to procure cheap labour and luxury goods: coffee, sugar, tea, chocolate, soy. You have no idea how many people have died at the hands of our governments just so that we can live in the lap of excess.
    It's a little dreary listening to these rants of yours without having some supportive evidence.
    What I know is that governments use immigrants as a scapegoat to divert the public from their own domestic policy failures. Look at the economy right now... it sucks. The banking system is the #1 enemy of the western world right now but people wouldn't know it because they are too busy arguing over if Muslims are evil or not. The "war on terror" was the latest distortion so that the west can enter the middle east and free up capital for their own uses. So you tell me what our "real" problems are and keep touting that immigrants are the source because that line has been used over and over in history ad nauseum.
    Were you actually born and raised in Canada?

    I don't read textbooks. Most of the tripe in those is made up by the people in power and it only serves to indoctrinate young people into this "we're the best" mentality when it's a total lie. The truth of our nations is that anything and everything happens under our governments. The rules we hold so dear are torn to shreds behind the scenes and they simply don't care.
    But you have a plan to make it all better, right?
    If you don't even know the basic information about how our cities were built and the human suffering that that entailed, then I cannot help you. It's hardly subjective content. It's pretty established in academic circles.
    I'm sure it is.
    I'm not talking about recent arrivals. Do you know what first generation means? It means you were born from immigrant parents but you yourself are a native citizen of the country your are born. Look at the cultural makeup of your government. I can promise you that it's mostly the power of the aristocracy: the power of white.
    And you are not white, I assume.

    No thanks. I'm not going to do your work for you. If you can't even trust that I know what I'm talking about from years of study and travel, then what some other academic says is not going to matter all that much to you. I'm not really going to dig up my 4th year graduate work to satisfy someone who is in such deep denial about reality.
    And don't think for a moment it's not appreciated!

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

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    I love how this rise of worry about Muslim women coincides with the dislike of the religion.
    Do you? Do you also love the way it coincides with honour killings, stoning adulterers, marrying children, banning other religions, murdering schoolgirls, hanging teenage Gays from lampposts, the stifling of free speech, and of course committing international terrorism? Do you love all of that as well?
    Don't bother pretending you or anyone else care about Muslim women's right in the West or anywhere else in the world.
    Someone has to care and in fact many brave Muslim women are now speaking out. While requiring 24 hour guard of course.
    Hell your country single handedly has done more to ruin it than anyone else by its support of Royals and dictatorships

    Ruin what? Women's rights? If so, let's correct it now.
    Oh and lol @ comparing it to Slavery. Seriously. LOL
    It is one part slavery and two parts ignorance.

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So....

    A right wing german claims says that Multiculturalism has failed. That immigrants are "not welcome"...

    And some of you in this thread are having a bukkake session over this, claiming that she's absolutely right...

    Since when did

    A: The conservatives who support her claims in this thread, start listening to right wing germans.
    B; The conservatives who support her claims in this thread, start listening to the leader of a "socialist" nation
    Doesn't the opinion of the leader of the German people carry some weight?

    Which German leader defines public opinion to you?

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    If you do not want to be a German don't move to Germany.

    If you don't want to Be an American don't break the law and come here DAMN IT!

    There are places in the Los Angeles area where if you don't speak Mexican you can't talk with the person behind the counter at the local 7-11. I didn't believe it until i say it for myself.

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

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    The Quran says women should wear the hijab.

    You read that in the Koran??

    I don't think so. You just made that up, right?

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    i don't know about deutschland, but here in amerika race relations under this post-racial poser have plummeted

    Voters Are Much Less Optimistic About Black-White Relations - Rasmussen Reports™

    only 36% of americans say today that black-white relations are improving, down 26 points since summer, 09, when 62% were optimistic

    27% today say the racial divide in the land of the free is widening, up from 10% a year and a half ago

    only 13% of of african americans are affirmative

    a mere 21% of our fellows feel that white-hispanic affairs are improving, down 19 points since last december

    50% today say hispanic-caucasian attitudes are hardening

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for EVERYONE!

    White people are supposed to accept that they have no right to pursue their own political, cultural, and economic interests. Whites are told they must live according to the rules of “individualism” while everybody else (Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, Asians, etc) are free to live by tribal rule-sets.

    Whites are blamed for every evil in history, but then, if they attempt to defend themselves from this accusation, are told that Whites (as a people) don’t even exist.

    To atone for their evil history, Whites must celebrate their own demise (“diversity is strength”) and accept mass immigration from the “developing world” into White countries and only White counties. Whites must then “assimilate” these immigrants into their communities, schools, work places, churches, and genetic material.

    What this is Genocide by forced assimilation.


    “...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    – Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II”


    Of course, anyone who opposes this program of genocide by forced assimilation is a “racist,” and therefore ANAZIWHOWANTSTOKILLSIXMILLIONJEWS.

    The people who call Whites “racist” claim they are “anti-racist.”

    What they are is anti-White.

    “Anti-racism” is a code for anti-White.

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    Re: Merkel says German multiculturalism has failed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    You read that in the Koran??

    I don't think so. You just made that up, right?
    Actually, the word hijab is only used to refer to a veil that covered the faces of the wives of Muhammad. Other words are use to refer to garments covering women, though it seems a little unclear exactly what is asked. The Quran never seems to say exactly how much a woman should be covered, though the hadith seem to say only the eyes should be uncovered.

    There is no indication it was required, however.
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