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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Come to think of it, they did blame Bush for 9/11. There still are some who believe the crazy conspiracy theory that the US was behind the attack. Not only that, but I can remember Bush being blamed for Hurricane Katrina, not just the response, but the fact that there was a hurricane, as well as the levies failing where the black people lived.

    Yes, exaggeration, hype, nonsense, and wacky conspiracy theories seem to be a way of political life.
    Glad to see some rationality!

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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    who wants to debate, it's a waste of time, all that's left for us of age is to observe

    POLITICO'S take on this tale, MCCLATCHY'S is not so much about the kids being critical and questioning

    it's much more about their having TURNED

    he's gone from 60% percent approval, age 18 to 29, vs 15 disapproval in may, 09, to 44 vs 27 today, a drop of TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT, according to AP

    and it was reflected in every word, every gesture in the mtv studio

    just as it was at georgetown on sept 20 amongst a group selected by the white house, just as it was at the dnc event earlier this week

    If President Barack Obama needed any more reminders that it's not 2008, he got another one Thursday night in a town hall with young voters.

    Back when he was a candidate, Obama inspired legions of young people who responded to his message of hope, and the feeling that he would move decisively on issues important to them, like gay rights. But after two years in office, he found himself on the defensive before a young audience that wanted to know why he hasn't done as much as he said he would.

    If anything, the hourlong show seemed to amplify the fact that the connection Obama has with the age group that infused his campaign with its sense of mission and excitement has frayed.

    At another forum this week, this one sponsored by the Democratic National Committee, Obama seemed to acknowledge the problems he faces in reconnecting with his young supporters. “One of the challenges of this election is to make sure we understand that as difficult as things have been, we are moving in the right direction,” he said. “The challenge is to make sure that, once again, hope overcomes fear.”

    But the president's attempt to describe his administration’s achievements while explaining the roadblocks it has faced in achieving many of its other goals, seemed more professorial than inspirational, both that night and two days later, on MTV. The relatively subdued response he got at both events underscored the problems Democrats may have in rekindling the connection Obama made with young voters in 2008.
    Fired up? Not so much - Abby Phillip - POLITICO.com

    the president probably preferred when the kids were less questioning and critical

    people like the kids who've come to question might have done better to demonstrate such independence of thought 2 years ago (ask bubba)

    better late than never, however

    sorry

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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    who wants to debate, it's a waste of time, all that's left for us of age is to observe

    POLITICO'S take on this tale, MCCLATCHY'S is not so much about the kids being critical and questioning

    it's much more about their having TURNED

    he's gone from 60% percent approval, age 18 to 29, vs 15 disapproval in may, 09, to 44 vs 27 today, a drop of TWENTY EIGHT PERCENT, according to AP

    and it was reflected in every word, every gesture in the mtv studio

    just as it was at georgetown on sept 20 amongst a group selected by the white house, just as it was at the dnc event earlier this week



    Fired up? Not so much - Abby Phillip - POLITICO.com

    the president probably preferred when the kids were less questioning and critical

    people like the kids who've come to question might have done better to demonstrate such independence of thought 2 years ago (ask bubba)

    better late than never, however

    sorry
    An identified Republican criticizing Obama for not being bi-partisan probably isn't demonstrating independence of thought. They are just advancing the party line.

    If you don't want to debate, then you probably shouldn't be on a debate forum. Anything you say here is meant to be debated. I doubt anybody joined this forum with the expectation our discussions would exert influence on the course of political events.
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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    I'd like to see the Demcrats down to 50 seats in the House for once and 25 in the Senate. They have never been in that position like the Republicans have. I mean really out of power and insignificant. After the way they ****ed this country up since FDR (the worst president in the 20th century), they deserve to have their asses handed to them on a galactic scale.
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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'd like to see the Demcrats down to 50 seats in the House for once and 25 in the Senate. They have never been in that position like the Republicans have. I mean really out of power and insignificant. After the way they ****ed this country up since FDR (the worst president in the 20th century), they deserve to have their asses handed to them on a galactic scale.
    We should have stricter standards when it comes to debate etiquette. This isn't a venting blog. We don't have to push FDR into this.
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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    mcclatchy, cnbc, the hill and the journolisters at politico are identified republicans?

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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    mcclatchy, cnbc, the hill and the journolisters at politico are identified republicans?
    Referring to the young woman cited in the article for challenging Obama's bi-partisan platform.
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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    It's not just Obama that young people have a problem with, but the whole system. My generation, generation X, can see things more clearly than the baby boomer generation. I can't wait for all these old farts to die off along with their draconian way of doing things so that some fresh blood can take the reigns. I don't think much will change economically but at least we could have hope for some social advancement.

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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    It's not just Obama that young people have a problem with, but the whole system. My generation, generation X, can see things more clearly than the baby boomer generation. I can't wait for all these old farts to die off along with their draconian way of doing things so that some fresh blood can take the reigns. I don't think much will change economically but at least we could have hope for some social advancement.
    I think you're totally missing what going on here, since you still think that mot young folks are Liberals.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Young Voters Vent Frustration To Obama In MTV Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think you're totally missing what going on here, since you still think that mot young folks are Liberals.
    No, not really. Look at the way social laws have changed in the past 50 years. The changes are have been gradual but sweeping, to the point that conservatives of today are defending the laws that the conservatives of yesterday detested.

    The aristocracy still hands off its financial power to the next generation in a fairly direct way, but socially speaking there has been a linear evolution of social rights and that isn't going to stop anytime soon.

    Generation X basically refers to people born in the post-modern era. They have had better access to education and ideas than the previous generations and so they tend to be better informed... we are also the most openly diverse.

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