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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Whats really going to be awesome (and to expand on Kandahar's point) is when internet enabled phones become cheap enough for these communities. Imagine the benefits of these villages having access to information on how to build anything from concrete to a generator to whatever. A lot of these villages are close to a junk pile where they can fix and use a lot of the stuff in there or get raw materials from.




    You have a lot more faith in those communities as if a pie e of technology will change thier social conditioning.

    You could give the entire city of newark a million bucks each and i would bet you in 5 years there would be just as many folms below poverty.
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

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    You have a lot more faith in those communities as if a pie e of technology will change thier social conditioning.

    You could give the entire city of newark a million bucks each and i would bet you in 5 years there would be just as many folms below poverty.
    The two are not comparable and you are showing the problem. Dambisa Moyo argues that it is the wreckless throwaway of monetary aid which has hurt Africa. Small technological projects have actually had possitive impacts on the local economies.
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You have a lot more faith in those communities as if a pie e of technology will change thier social conditioning.

    You could give the entire city of newark a million bucks each and i would bet you in 5 years there would be just as many folms below poverty.
    If they do it themselves, than its not giving.

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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The two are not comparable and you are showing the problem. Dambisa Moyo argues that it is the wreckless throwaway of monetary aid which has hurt Africa. Small technological projects have actually had possitive impacts on the local economies.


    I'm involved in "small technological projects" in Newark and Paterson and have been for years. can you quantify "possitive[sic] impacts on the local economy"? Thanks
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If they do it themselves, than its not giving.


    how would they do it themselves? how come it hasn't happened?
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    how would they do it themselves? how come it hasn't happened?
    Did you miss the part about internet enabled phones? One has to know how to build things before they can. Right now there is a real problem with literacy, education, expertise, etc in those areas.

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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Did you miss the part about internet enabled phones? One has to know how to build things before they can. Right now there is a real problem with literacy, education, expertise, etc in those areas.


    and what makes you think handing them cheap internet enabled phones will be the tool that lifts them out of poverty? It's a naive view my friend.
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    and what makes you think handing them cheap internet enabled phones will be the tool that lifts them out of poverty? It's a naive view my friend.
    I am not advocating handing them anything. My premise is that as technology progresses and internet enabled phones become cheaper to the point that it will probably happen naturally. However, they would have to be the ones to take action, which I assume they would once they find out the value of what they have in their hands. Its a natural progression to having long distance communication which is always helping their situation (such as finding out the proper grain prices and not having the local buyer have a monopoly on that info to scam them.)
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am not advocating handing them anything. My premise is that as technology progresses and internet enabled phones become cheaper to the point that it will probably happen naturally. However, they would have to be the ones to take action, which I assume they would once they find out the value of what they have in their hands. Its a natural progression to having long distance communication which is always helping their situation (such as finding out the proper grain prices and not having the local buyer have a monopoly on that info to scam them.)


    I think you are being naive, are we talking about a farmer, or the inner city folk? I think a farmer usually is pretty set in his ways, and inner city folk lack initiative, value in education, drive, and motivation, making iphones the price of a 40 won't help them one bit,.
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    Re: Mobile phones help lift poor out of poverty: U.N. study

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think you are being naive, are we talking about a farmer, or the inner city folk? I think a farmer usually is pretty set in his ways, and inner city folk lack initiative, value in education, drive, and motivation, making iphones the price of a 40 won't help them one bit,.
    Perhaps in this country, but the survival pressures here are a lot lower than in Africa.

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