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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Oh ho ho, two wrongs make a right, do they?
    No, you -don't- get to dodge away from this...
    Do you or do you not agree that it was proper for the courts to subvert democracy in each of these cases?

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Because our elected officials do something our reactionary elements don't like, and what do they do? They don't try and win hearts and minds to change the law, no! They decide to use the courts to subvert democracy.
    How is taking the Feds to court over Obamacare suberting democracy? To use your logic then is not Obama (Feds) subverting democracy when they take States to court over State laws they do not like? IMO, the health care bill was rushed / pushed through.

    I agree we as a nation need to do something about health care costs. Little hidden items in the Bill/Law like some states getting a break on medicare costs while others don't just to secure their vote, like the 3% cost some will have to pay on the sale of their house (second home).
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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, you -don't- get to dodge away from this...
    Do you or do you not agree that it was proper for the courts to subvert democracy in each of these cases?
    There was no subversion of democracy to start with. I dabble in anti-democratic thought, anyway, so I wouldn't care even if there was. I don't personally take issue with any of the cases mentioned in this thread. The people who do, however, have some explaining to do. I hope that if anyone in this thread supports this suit, they have the integrity never to complain about judicial activism ever again.

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    There was no subversion of democracy to start with
    How so? Each of these cases overturned a law that was democtatically passed, just like Obamacare.

    I dabble in anti-democratic thought, anyway, so I wouldn't care even if there was.
    Oh - but regarding Obamacare, you DO care about the subversion of democracy?

    What a joke.

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How so? Each of these cases overturned a law that was democtatically passed, just like Obamacare.


    Oh - but regarding Obamacare, you DO care about the subversion of democracy?

    What a joke.
    Of course not, it's just interesting to see the conservative hypocrisy that created this thread.

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Of course not, it's just interesting to see the conservative hypocrisy that created this thread.
    So you dont have any REAL concern here, except to troll.
    10-4.

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I hope that if anyone in this thread supports this suit, they have the integrity never to complain about judicial activism ever again.
    That is a patently stupid comment. You're implying that there is no way a judge would handle this suit with anything other than judicial activism.

    Judicial activism is a political term used to describe judicial rulings that are suspected to be based upon personal and political considerations other than existing law.
    What is your basis for assuming this case cannot possoble be handled without judicial activism?

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    That is a patently stupid comment. You're implying that there is no way a judge would handle this suit with anything other than judicial activism.



    What is your basis for assuming this case cannot possoble be handled without judicial activism?
    You're right, I should rephrase. It's an attempt to "abuse" the court system to get what they want instead of going through voters. As such, the right's hypocrisy is palpable.

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    You're right, I should rephrase. It's an attempt to "abuse" the court system to get what they want instead of going through voters.
    You mean like in Roe v Wade and CA Prop 8?

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    Re: Judge allows states' healthcare suit to proceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    You're right, I should rephrase. It's an attempt to "abuse" the court system to get what they want instead of going through voters. As such, the right's hypocrisy is palpable.
    Hehe.. I LOVE Liberals that have a bad case of foot in mouth disease! You made a comment, I called you on it, and now you're ducking the central question about you're own hypocrisy..

    Roe v Wade - Judicial activism, yes, no?
    Prop 8 - Judicial activism, yes, no?

    It's not complicated deary..


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