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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Didn't the senate rule to uphold DADT within the past couple of months? How is this ruling relevant?
    The Senate did not add an amendment to the defense appropriations bill to remove DADT. 57 voted for it, with at least 2 against due to procedural issues, and an unknown number of others wanting to wait till the DoD report is completed by the end of the year.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    It's about time. Good for the judge.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If the judge has no authority then what good is the ruling? Its like a judge in Spain trying to try Bush for war crimes, if the judge has no authority then it is meaningless.
    The judge absolutely has authority over us code law, which is what DADT is.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The judge has absolutely has authority over us code law, which is what DADT is.
    Reading the article, how does a district court judge have authority over the military that operates outside of that jurisdiction? Where is RightinNYC?
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Reading the article, how does a district court judge have authority over the military that operates outside of that jurisdiction? Where is RightinNYC?
    There aren't any military bases in California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Wyoming? By military bases I am also referring to federal armories that belong to the reserve components of the federal military in addition to the normal military bases. The judge's court is in the 9th US Circuit Court.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Reading the article, how does a district court judge have authority over the military that operates outside of that jurisdiction? Where is RightinNYC?
    I would like his opinion too...damn real life keeping him busy....

    DADT is a US code, or federal law. Federal judges do have jurisdiction over federal law.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Based on what I have read, one of the issues with DADT is that it's enforcement has varied widely across different commands. It has definitely been used to discharge gays with stellar records and no issues with the military, but not always. It has been used by people who want out of the service as a easy way out(just tell some one in the chain of command "I am gay" and get a free and easy discharge), but again, not always, and this has been mostly stopped. I can dig up some documentation on this if you wish.
    We must admit that we don't always get the whole story in those cases. In actuality, the only evidence that gays, disharged under DADT, had exemplary service records are media articles and we all know that they don't always show the whole picture.

    Personally, I don't think is going to have the happy ending that the DADT abolitionists think, because as I've pointed out before, DADT is the actual ban on gays. But we'll see.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would like his opinion too...damn real life keeping him busy....

    DADT is a US code, or federal law. Federal judges do have jurisdiction over federal law.
    But, Federal judges don't have jurisdiction over the UCMJ and DoD regulations.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, Federal judges don't have jurisdiction over the UCMJ and DoD regulations.
    DADT is federal statutory law passed by Congress. It is part of the US code. A federal judge has jurisdiction over such law as best I can tell, though I am not finding any actual legal experts commenting on it either way. However, the fact that outside of message boards, no one is questioning the jurisdiction leads me to believe that it is not a real issue.
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    Re: Judge orders military to stop enforcing don't ask, don't tell

    It wonder have been better if this had passed yesterday on national coming out day

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