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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    The Act of Certiorari should be repealed and make the Supreme Court do its job.

    @TED: Dissenters should have been allowed into the town hall meeting since the president supposedly represents them as well. By denying them entrance it tells the people that disagree with the president that they do not matter to him. Although, the majority of people don't even realize that they do not matter to the politicians anyway.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Take it to the Free Speech Zone, you hippie degenerates!


    Seriously, though, why do we even have a Supreme Court when they won't rule on something so simple and yet so important?
    I raised hell about this story when it broke and some wackos on the right were defending Bushes people for this.

    I agree about the free speech zone, but to me it's every square inch of all 50 states and all areas where our flag flies around the world.


    This was wrong.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I figured out a new addition to our system of checks and balances: a big lever that citizens can pull. When pulled, the lever activates a devide that whacks the appropriate judge on the nose with a newspaper.

    Bad Supreme Court. No. That's a BAD Supreme Court.

    "No clearly established right?" What, now we need a specific constitutional amendment for every possible action? Amendment 4,153 to the US Constitution: No person shall be denied the right to wear a shirt that says "I'm a bomb disposal expert, if you see me running, try to keep up."
    Actually, the decision is correct. You have a right to peaceful gathering for political purposes. You have a right to protected speech in the written and spoken word. You have a right to free association.

    However, nowhere do you have an established right to attend a political event if you are not wanted there. The venue was a private one. They were permitted to have who they wanted at the event.

    The only recourse these people should have is a refund on their ticket.

    I don't agree with Bush's security decisions, but the supreme court shouldn't be hearing this case.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    The Act of Certiorari should be repealed and make the Supreme Court do its job.

    @TED: Dissenters should have been allowed into the town hall meeting since the president supposedly represents them as well. By denying them entrance it tells the people that disagree with the president that they do not matter to him. Although, the majority of people don't even realize that they do not matter to the politicians anyway.
    As long as they behave. What we saw too often at town hall meetings was disruptive to the point of ending any real discouse or information gathering of any kind. You have to be willing to listen as well as want to speak.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As long as they behave. What we saw too often at town hall meetings was disruptive to the point of ending any real discouse or information gathering of any kind. You have to be willing to listen as well as want to speak.
    I can agree with that.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    However, nowhere do you have an established right to attend a political event if you are not wanted there. The venue was a private one. They were permitted to have who they wanted at the event.
    It stopped being a protected political event when it was paid for by the government.

    ETA: Sorry, I should've said private rather than protected.
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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It stopped being a protected political event when it was paid for by the government.
    No it didn't. Nowhere do you have an established right to attend a government sponsored event at a private venue. If it were on the capital lawn, I could see it being an equal access thing. However, it's at a private venue. And the fact that it was government sponsored does not in any way suddenly grant you the right to attend.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The threat posed by bumper stickers?
    Nice attempt at derailing the thread.
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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No it didn't. Nowhere do you have an established right to attend a government sponsored event at a private venue. If it were on the capital lawn, I could see it being an equal access thing. However, it's at a private venue. And the fact that it was government sponsored does not in any way suddenly grant you the right to attend.
    That was my interpretation as well. The museum is a private venue and thus they set the security parameters, which means if they want it to be a quiet audience they will probably try to curtail any chance of there being disruptions and loudmouths in attendance.

    Do I like this approach? No. If it's a townhall meeting then it should include whoever wants to attend... but legally speaking, I think the ruling was right.

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    Re: Supreme Court declines Bush bumper sticker case

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Actually, the decision is correct. You have a right to peaceful gathering for political purposes. You have a right to protected speech in the written and spoken word. You have a right to free association.

    However, nowhere do you have an established right to attend a political event if you are not wanted there. The venue was a private one. They were permitted to have who they wanted at the event.

    The only recourse these people should have is a refund on their ticket.

    I don't agree with Bush's security decisions, but the supreme court shouldn't be hearing this case.
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    Bush was POTUS in 2005 and this event was ostensibly paid by tax payers, there was no reason why they should have been tossed.


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