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    Re: Guilty until proven innocent... according to the White House

    I don't get it. So what if the GOP is taking foreign donations? Didn't they argue that this was fine to do in 2000?

    GOP quietly defended foreign donations

    n a case that escaped much public attention, GOP lawyers submitted briefs to the Federal Election Commission last year claiming that the federal ban on foreign contributions applied solely to donations to candidates, not the unregulated sums known as soft money that are given to the political parties.

    ''Foreign national donations to party committee non-federal accounts are legally permissible ...,'' the Republican National Committee's lawyers wrote in a brief in a dispute over a loan from a foreign businessman. ''It could not be more apparent that ... Congress intended the proscriptions of the Federal Election Campaign Act to apply only to 'hard money' contributions.''
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    Re: Guilty until proven innocent... according to the White House

    time mag today: over its head, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless

    ouch

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really, if we going to do the just asking rouse, I suggest we take the Glenn Beck / Eric Cartman approach:

    "South Park" Takes On Glenn Beck: Cartman Leads Campaign Against "Communist" President (VIDEO)
    I still say the Beck / Catman approach is the wy to go, since so many are anyway.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Why is it that the White House can make apparently baseless accusations against political opponents, and those opponents have to prove the accusations are false? I'm was always taught 'innocent until proven guilty', not 'innocent unless you piss of Barack Obama'.
    What is is about far-righties that they refuse to do a shred of fact-checking before opening their mouths?

    The Chamber of Commerce does take foreign funds. They admit to doing that.

    Do they follow election law and keep separate accounts and not use any of the foreign funds for ads? That's what the Dems suggested. And, if the foreign funds aren't being used to specifically purchase ad buys, then what's it being used for? To pay the phone bills to call in the ad buys?

    Itís certainly true that millions are being spent without public disclosure, and that much of the money is coming from corporations taking advantage of a Supreme Court ruling easing restrictions on political spending. But using foreign funds to finance political ads is still a legal violation. Accusing anybody of violating the law is a serious matter requiring serious evidence to back it up. So far Democrats have produced none.
    Here' why you GOP partisans all sound like total hypocrites. Fat boy, Karl Rove, has made a career out of raising doubt though suggestion and innuendo--everything he says about the opposition is meant to be suggestive... so, some mud gets throw his way, the Dems use one of his tricks on him, and he gets all pissy. STFU Rove, ya jackass!

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    the new york times, time mag, wapo, politico and cbs see this accusation as a TOTAL LOSER

    throw a tantrum

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    Re: Guilty until proven innocent... according to the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Think we could have a look at the donors list for Obama's '08 campaign? So far he is keeping that a secret....Why?


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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Irony:

    The right says why does Obama not just show proof that he was born in Hawaii, then complain when asked to show proof of an accusation themselves.

    Obama supporters complain about being expected to prove that Obama was not born in Kenya, but then ask others to show proof that they are not guilty of an accusation.
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    Re: Guilty until proven innocent... according to the White House

    'Baseless lie' = blatant lie. Karl Rove one ups the DNC.

    Funny, pudding boy wasn't upset went Newtie went off the deep end a few weeks back. But he did get honest about O'Donnell...then backpedaled a day later.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    I think what the dems are simply saying is that it should be a law that forces disclosure, or even a ban. There is even a moral obligation toward not aiding foreigners in helping influence our elections. As I recall the first time I heard about outrage concerning foreign funds in our elections, it was the republican hit machine going on about Clinton accepting Chinese funds. It was for this reason that I brought up the fact that it would only be a matter of time before dems will be getting secret foreign funds, and that those on the right will be howling about it.

    The comparison to Obama's citizenship is laughable.
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    Re: Guilty until proven innocent... according to the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    It will only be a matter of time before entities are set up to channel foreign money into democratic coffers. You republicans are going to be ok with that, I guess. I know I'm not.
    Already happened in 2008-

    Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations
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