Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville
[QUOTE=Strucky;1059036760]So what do you think of the secret donations given to the Obama campaign in 2008?
I think (a)they weren't a secret, (b)they were acknowledged, and (c)the campaign chose for financial reasons to return improper contributions rather than preemptively screening for them. I also think this is completely irrelevant to the Chamber of Commerce trying to run game on American democracy with funding it refuses to disclose.
YouTube - Twilight Zone Opening THEME MUSIC 1962 Rod SerlingSince reality has a liberal bias...
link?If a Republican came on Fox News saying 2 + 2 = 5, the headline would be "Are liberals trying to shortchange arithmetic?"
would olberman say the same?
oh, absolutely, barack hussein won the white house IN SPITE OF the conservative bias dominating the msmI think the general tenor of the coverage was against him
he entered the presidential campaign with such an impressive resume of accomplishments and abilities
why, mere months after invesco field he won THE NOBEL
the coc operates in the exact same way and under the exact same rules of disclosure as moveon and the afl-cioAs I've now said several times, it's not illegal for the Chamber of Commerce to accept foreign funds, it has no reason to refuse them, it has every reason to solicit and accept them, it refuses to deny using such funds being used in its political ad campaigns (it only denies their going directly into the campaigns), and its response (and yours) has been exclusively to try to change the subject. They just attacked their accusers, like you're doing, and said that foreign money isn't going directly to ad campaigns. What they refuse to deny is that foreign money is going into the general fund that is being used for the ad campaigns.
i wonder why the white house, with its doj and irs, hasn't ACCUSED, on the basis of "it appears" and "i can assert anything i want, bob," the activists and unionists of criminal activity
it must be because moveon is even more right wing than olberman
Last edited by The Prof; 10-13-10 at 06:13 AM.
You mean foreign corporations like BP?Originally Posted by Troubadour
Obama biggest recipient of BP cash | ReutersDuring his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.
Originally Posted by Troubadourwashingtonpost.comThe chamber adamantly denies that foreign funds are used in its U.S. election efforts, accusing Democrats of orchestrating a speculative smear campaign during a desperate political year.
You either don't keep up with the topic or you've drank too much Kool-Aid.
However, let's look at the clips Stewart provides on this:
Jon Stewart talks dirty politics, Karl Rove foreign money allegations
From a group who are always throwing up aspurtions about where the money comes from, I find this hypocracy humorous, which is why Stewart's joke resonates. However, any thinking person who is considering accepting the claim should stop and ask for evidence. The rules apply across the board, even with the silly hypocracy on your side.
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.
Obama and the Democrats are looking more and more like desparate losers every day.
did you see this?
rove's and gillespie's crossroads gps raised THIRTEEN MILLION dollars in only ONE WEEK since oblvious, obtuse, obnoxious obama began his groundless ACCUSATIONS based on nothing more than "i can assert whatever i want, bob"
Rove-backed group raised $13M since attacks from Obama - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room
this administration is---demonstrably---over its head, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless
whatcha gonna do, now, mr president?
sic the irs and doj on us?
you better hurry up, you've already lost congressional backing
and after november...
well, what else is there to talk about
affable, gaffe-able, laughable joe biden, who is able to campaign for democrats in 100 districts the presidential putz can't appear without hurting someone, lays it out
we can't campaign on our leviathan list of legislative accomplishments, avers the veep, because "it's just too hard to explain"
Biden, Obama's Traveling Salesman, Makes Hard Sell to Voters - Bloomberg
the stimulus, obamacare, reg reform, cap and trade...
political insiders can only sympathize
seeya at the polls, pals
SUE ME, president obama, ATTACK MY SOURCES, i too could use a BUMP
Originally Posted by Whovian
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the conservative business lobbying group that has vowed to spend $75 million to influence the midterm elections, is denying a report from a liberal group that it is using money from foreign corporations on campaign ads.
"These accusations are completely erroneous," Tita Freeman, vice president of communications for the Chamber, said in a statement. "... No foreign money is used to fund political activities."
1 & 2) The chamber has denied that foreign members’ payments—which chamber officials say total less than 1% of its $200 million budget—are used for political activities. The chamber is not legally required to disclose its donors.
Where is all this 'mounting evidence' I hear of? None has been presented. And David Axlerod himself said he doesn't need to provide any.
Last edited by Whovian; 10-13-10 at 02:32 PM.