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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by RosieS View Post
    Silly man. The Chamber actually is going to have to prove the Dems' claims are untrue, thru reasonable accounting procedures. To dismiss this fact quickly and claim the opposite, that the Dems must prove what the Chamber did or did not do, jumped the gun, the shark and a buncha other things, too.

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    You're really not very good at this, are you.

    The FEC says that the COC must use reasonable accounting procedures to prove separation of monies. It does NOT say they must do so at the whim of the Democratic party. If the FEC decides to investigate, then the COC must indeed use reasonable accounting procedures to prove separation of monies.

    If the Dems want to make accusations, they certainly SHOULD provide proof of their claims. If you disagree with that, then I should be able to claim you are really a hermaphrodite, because I don't need to prove my accusation... according to you, anyway.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by RosieS View Post
    Silly man. The Chamber actually is going to have to prove the Dems' claims are untrue, thru reasonable accounting procedures. To dismiss this fact quickly and claim the opposite, that the Dems must prove what the Chamber did or did not do, jumped the gun, the shark and a buncha other things, too.

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    Fail!

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    General forms of the argument:
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    Irrelevant. The Chamber's claims would be easily sourced if they were legitimate, but it's not that kind of party with those people - they're not in the business of discussion. They're in the business of perpetuating ideas that serve their interests, whether true or false.
    There is no proof of the allegations put forth by Obama.
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    you're apparently commenting on an alternate universe where people care what the MSM says.
    obama cares

    They were saying pretty much the same thing during the election.
    LOL!

    during the 2008 presidential campaign the msm's were portraying barack hussein obama as "over his head, insular, isolated, arrogant and clueless"

    absolutely

    he was so clueless he sent THRILLS up their legs

    there's that alternate universe, again, bizarro

    I haven't seen it
    you haven't seen last friday's jobs report?

    the rest of america has

    seeya at the polls, 3 weeks from today

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    There is no proof of the allegations put forth by Obama.
    The defense of a Mafia attorney. Not "it isn't true," just "you can't prove it." And regardless of whether that's the case, we have every reason to suspect they're funded in this way, and they refuse to even verbally address it let alone open up their books. No, they're an attack-dog organization, and they prefer to be the ones going after others - they're not comfortable being in the spotlight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Would you feel better if the Rep. party was receiving money from untraceable, pre-paid, reloadable credit cards like Obama did?
    I don't even know what you're talking about. The fact is the Republican Party has unlimited support: The media gives its propaganda unlimited airplay, treats its most deranged claims, evasions, and outright lies as legitimate arguments, and perpetuates myths that serve its agenda. They don't even need to buy airtime - practically everything packaged as "news" is run through a filter to remove any "liberal bias" that might come from honest journalism. It's a miracle that a Democrat ever gets a word in edgewise with six thousand phony newspapers and radio shows all spewing the same GOP talking points. Barack Obama won a landslide victory in 2008 with half the media declaring on a daily basis that he was doomed, and the other half interpreting everything that happened as evidence that he was "in trouble." The GOP, the media, and Wall Street are a single entity.
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    The defense of a Mafia attorney. Not "it isn't true," just "you can't prove it." And regardless of whether that's the case, we have every reason to suspect they're funded in this way, and they refuse to even verbally address it let alone open up their books. No, they're an attack-dog organization, and they prefer to be the ones going after others - they're not comfortable being in the spotlight.



    I don't even know what you're talking about. The fact is the Republican Party has unlimited support: The media gives its propaganda unlimited airplay, treats its most deranged claims, evasions, and outright lies as legitimate arguments, and perpetuates myths that serve its agenda. They don't even need to buy airtime - practically everything packaged as "news" is run through a filter to remove any "liberal bias" that might come from honest journalism. It's a miracle that a Democrat ever gets a word in edgewise with six thousand phony newspapers and radio shows all spewing the same GOP talking points. Barack Obama won a landslide victory in 2008 with half the media declaring on a daily basis that he was doomed, and the other half interpreting everything that happened as evidence that he was "in trouble." The GOP, the media, and Wall Street are a single entity.

    Could you give us a list of the "GOP media" Please?


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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Could you give us a list of the "GOP media" Please?


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    The list is so long, it'll take him a while to get it together.
    Oh wait.... I have it right here.
    Fox News and talk radio.
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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So the Obama administration can make any claim they wish without substance to back it up, and even if the victim of their claims tries to refute the accusation it is irrelevant? That is some nice system you got there. I suppose that wouldn't work if repubs used it on demo's though.


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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Troubadour View Post
    I don't even know what you're talking about. The fact is the Republican Party has unlimited support: The media gives its propaganda unlimited airplay, treats its most deranged claims, evasions, and outright lies as legitimate arguments, and perpetuates myths that serve its agenda. They don't even need to buy airtime - practically everything packaged as "news" is run through a filter to remove any "liberal bias" that might come from honest journalism. It's a miracle that a Democrat ever gets a word in edgewise with six thousand phony newspapers and radio shows all spewing the same GOP talking points. Barack Obama won a landslide victory in 2008 with half the media declaring on a daily basis that he was doomed, and the other half interpreting everything that happened as evidence that he was "in trouble." The GOP, the media, and Wall Street are a single entity.
    You're actually claiming that the majority of mass media has a conservative bias?

    You think that 100% of the mass media was against Obama during the 2008 elections?

    You have GOT to be kidding. No way this guy is for real.

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    Re: Rove, Gillespie Slam Obama for Spreading 'Baseless Lie' Over Foreign Contribution

    the chamber of commerce represents american business interests coast to coast, in every city, county and municipality in each of our 50 states

    the white house and the dnc are accusing the legitimate voice of millions of american business owners of criminal activity based on nothing more than "it appears" and "i can assert anything i want, bob"

    this entire smear originated with JOHN PODESTA's center for american progress which, like the afl-cio, the sierra club, move on and 100's of other special interest lobbyists, take themselves foreign money and refuse themselves to disclose their donors

    that the white house would LIFT a talking point from podesta's pac and try to center its 2010 congressional campaign on it is sign certain of a political party in desperate need of changing the subject from the dire concerns of the american people in times like these---jobs, the economy, taxes, spending and debt

    when nixon threatened to use the irs to go after HIS domestic opposition all those right wing msm's worked themselves up into the kind of lather they reserved for ellsburg's release of the pentagon papers

    "it appears" the coc is using foreign money to "steal our democracy," runs the ad produced and paid for by the dnc, national headquarters of the party in power

    it is what it is

    let axelrod and biden blow obama's smoke about nothing

    let moveon and podesta's pac open THEIR books

    let cbs, time, the nyt, wapo and politico LOL! over this over-its-head white house, isolated, insular, arrogant and clueless

    let the chamber and the national and local republicans talk about all that matters to the people---employment, opportunities, taxes (scheduled to go up by a whopper on jan 1), OBAMA'S WAR, the borders, the busted and bankrupt budget...

    and america will reach its collective verdict on november 2

    good luck
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